Robert was born about 1310, the son of Robert FitzPaen and UNKNOWN. The place is not known.
He died on 10 DEC 1322. The place is not known.
His wife was Maud de Badlesmere, who he married in ABT 1316. The place has not been found. They had no known children.
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| Event | Date | Details | Source | Multimedia | Notes |
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| Birth | ABT 1310 | ||||
| Death | 10 DEC 1322 |
Note 1
!Stylename: FitzPaen, de Baskerville, de Northwood, Robert “Roger” III [~1310-<1328]
!Note: The marriage of Roger FitzPaen III de Northwood to Maud de Badlesmere, niece of Joan de Badlesmere, who married Sir John de Northwood, 1st Baron Northwood, grandson of Stephen de Northwood, essentially closes the circle between the Shropshire FitzPaen/Baskerville and Kent Northwood/Badlesmere lines.
It anchors the migration theory from Shropshire to Kent.
It confirms ongoing kinship ties, not just coincidental surname overlap.
And it explains why Whitstable/Northwood ended up simultaneously tied to both FitzPaen-Baskerville and Northwood-Badlesmere descent.
Note Maud’s age is determined by the following actual recorded event: On 14 April 1322, when she was twelve years of age, Maud's father was hanged, drawn and quartered by orders of King Edward II, following his participation in the Earl of Lancaster's rebellion and his subsequent capture after the Battle of Boroughbridge. Thus she was born about 1310, as was Roger.
Note: Land Summary for Robet FitzPaen II:
Whitstable Northwood Dodeham, Kent - owned land here but Manor belonged to Maud's de Badlesmere's family.
barony of Chilham ?
Wraxall in Dorset
Wraxall in Wiltshire
Wootton Fitzpaine in Dorset
Stogursey or Stokecurcy
Radway Fitzpaine [in Cannington] or Radeweye
Cary Fitzpaine [in Charlton Mackrell] or Cary
Charlton Mackrell or Cherleton and the advowson of the church of Cherleton' in the county of Somerset
Cannington or the hundred of Canyngton
Codnor [in Derbyshire]
Wrockeshale and the advowson of the church of the same manor in the county of Dorset
Staple Fitzpaine and advowsons of the church in Somerset
Wingate in Stogursey - 1 carucate of land in Wyndeyate, the advowson of the church of Staple in the county of Somerset
Okeford Fitzpaine or Akford and the advowson of the church of the same manor in the county of Dorset.
Wisley in Derbyshire
Stourton in Derbyshire
Cheddon Fitzpaine or Ceden and advowsons of the church in Somerset
Charlton Mackrell in Derbyshire
!Source: Google Groups https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/pBXpDWBcCeA/m/zEs1J2ZyCQAJ
C.P. Addition: Ela Lovel, wife of John le Marshal, 2nd Lord Marshal, and Robert Fitz Payn, Knt., 2nd Lord Fitz Payn
Douglas Richardson, Historian and Genealogist
+ + + + + + + +
,…, JOHN MARSHAL died 12 August 1316.
He married previously an unknown 1st wife, by whom he had one son, Robert, Knt.[died before 10 Dec. 1322], and one daughter, Isabel [wife of John Chideock, Knt.]. He presented to the churches of Greens Norton, Northamptonshire, 1323, 1330, 1345, 1348, 1350, Cheddon Fitzpaine, Somerset, 1328, Pitney, Somerset, 1339, Kingstone [near Ilminster], Somerset, 1342, 1343, 1349, 1353, Keinton Mandeville, Somerset, 1345, 1346, and Skilgate, Somerset, 1349, 1350. In 1323 Jordan de Byntre, chaplain, granted Robert and Ela his wife and the heirs of Robert the manors of Cary Fitzpaine [in Charlton Mackrell], Charlton Mackrell, Radway Fitzpaine [in Cannington], and Stogursey, together with the Hundred of Cannington, Somerset.
!Source: Wiltshire Record Society, ABSTRACTS OF FEET OF FINES RELATING TO WILTSHIRE FOR THE REIGN OF EDWARD III EDITED BY C. R. ELRINGTON
https://belnapfamily.org/Wiltshire_Records_Society_Feet_of_Fines_Abstracts_EdwardIII_v29.pdf
EDWARD III page 17
1328
14. York. Quin. of Hil. John Mautravers the younger, pl.; Robert Fitzpayn
def. Manor of Pole and the advowson of the church of the same manor, which
Maud who was wife of Robert Fitz Payn le Fitz holds in dower. Right of p1.; <<< Note: Maude and Robert I were both born about 1310 and were betrothed at about 6.
grant to him of the reversion. Cons. 100 marks. Maud has done fealty.
254/40/13
Notes:
Translation of Abbreviations and Legal Terms
Abbrev. / Term Meaning Plain English
Quin. of Hil. — Quindena of Hilary Term — The court session two weeks after the Feast of St. Hilary [13 January] — basically, late January or early February 1328.
pl. — plaintiff —The person bringing the case — here, John Mautravers the younger.
def. — defendant — The person holding or claiming the property — Maud, 18 years old, widow of Robert FitzPayn. <<< Note: Maude and Robert I were both born about 1310 and were betrothed at about 6.
advowson — The right to appoint a parish priest to a benefic. A very valuable right attached to a manor; you could sell or lease it.
le Fitz — “the son” [Norman French]. Marks him as “Robert the son of Robert FitzPayn,” confirming Robert III. holds in dower
Widow’s life interest — Maud holds the property for her lifetime as her widow’s portion. She can collect income but not sell it.
reversion — The right to take possession after a life tenancy end. Whoever buys the reversion gets the estate once the widow dies.
cons. 100 marks — Consideration [payment] of 100 marks — John Mautravers pays 100 marks [about £66 13s 4d] for this right.
has done fealty — Formal oath of loyalty — Maud acknowledged she held the land from her overlord and swore the required oath.
Warrant_v. — Warrantia vocata [a warranty clause] — Indicates that a previous warrant or obligation was acknowledged in the case — basically, the legal paperwork’s fine print.
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What Actually Happened?
Robert III FitzPaen had died at 12 years old, although this writer did not realize that..
His widow Maud de Badlesmere still held the Manor of Pole and its church advowson as her dower, meaning for her lifetime. <<< Note: Maude and Robert I were both born about 1310 and were betrothed at about 6.
Robert II FitzPaen , her late husband’s father, or the estate’s trustees likely sold or mortgaged the reversion, the right to the property after her death, to John Mautravers the younger, a powerful Marcher baron and royal official.
Mautravers sued or formally petitioned the king’s court, at York, to confirm his claim to that reversion, paying 100 marks for royal confirmation.
The court granted it, with Maud acknowledging her life interest and performing the standard fealty oath.
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So — in short:
Maud kept Pole for life.
John Mautravers bought the reversion, meaning he would inherit the manor when she died.
The FitzPaen family effectively cashed out of that estate when Robert III died, before 1328. After that, the Pole estate belonged totally to Maud.
!Source: Maud de Badlesmere https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maud_de_Badlesmere
Maud de Badlesmere, Countess of Oxford [1310 – May 1366] was an English noblewoman, and the wife of John de Vere, 7th Earl of Oxford. She, along with her three sisters, was a co-heiress of her only brother Giles de Badlesmere, 2nd Baron Badlesmere, who had no male issue.
At the age of 11 she was imprisoned in the Tower of London along with her mother, Margaret de Clare, Baroness Badlesmere and her four siblings, after the former refused Queen consort Isabella admittance to Leeds Castle and ordered an assault upon her when she attempted entry.
Family
Maud was born at Castle Badlesmere,[citation needed] Kent, England in 1310, the second[citation needed] eldest daughter of Bartholomew de Badlesmere, 1st Baron Badlesmere and Margaret de Clare. She had three sisters, Margery, Elizabeth, and Margaret; all of whom eventually married and had issue. She had one brother, Giles.
Her paternal grandparents were Guncelin de Badlesmere and Joan FitzBernard, and her maternal grandparents were Thomas de Clare, Lord of Thomond and Juliana FitzGerald of Offaly.
On 14 April 1322, when she was twelve years of age, Maud's father was hanged, drawn and quartered by orders of King Edward II, following his participation in the Earl of Lancaster's rebellion and his subsequent capture after the Battle of Boroughbridge. Maud, her siblings,[1] and her mother had been arrested the previous October after the latter had ordered an assault upon Queen consort Isabella after refusing her admittance to Leeds Castle where Baron Badlesmere held the post of governor.[2] Maud's mother, Baroness Badlesmere, remained imprisoned in the Tower of London until 3 November 1322,[3] although it is not known[citation needed] when Maud and her siblings were released. Her brother Giles obtained a reversal of their father's attainder in 1328, and he succeeded to the barony as 2nd Baron Badlesmere. Maud, along with her three sisters, was Giles's co-heiress, as he had married but fathered no children by his wife, Elizabeth Montagu.
Marriages and issue
In June 1316, Maud, aged six, married her first husband, Robert FitzPayn, son of Robert FitzPayn. Welsh historian R. R. Davies relates in his book, Lords and lordship in the British Isles in the late Middle Ages how her father, Lord Badlesmere, when drawing up the marriage contract, sought to provide for Maud's future by ensuring that she would have independent means. He granted her land worth 200 marks per year, and her future father-in-law was constrained to endow her with three manors and their revenues.[4] >>>> The marriage did not produce children <<<<; and on an unknown date sometime before March 1335 Maud married secondly, John de Vere, 7th Earl of Oxford. Upon her marriage, Maud assumed the title Countess of Oxford. John was a captain in King Edward III's army, and as such participated in the Battle of Crécy and the Battle of Poitiers.
!Source: The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant,
Extinct, or Dormant G. E. Cokayne; new edition rev. Vicary Gibbs & H. A. Doubleday
Vol. V [Eardley of Spalding to Goojerat]. London: The St Catherine Press, 1926 [cancelling 1921 issue]
p. 454 – FitzPayn.
https://archive.org/details/CokayneG.E.TheCompletePeerageSecondEditionVolume5EAGO/page/n239/mode/2up
> page 454 matches:
Function Record Location
Marriage contract to Maud de Badlesmere Harl. Charter 45 F 11; Close Roll 10 Edw II m. 31 d Formal alliance arranged between Sir Robert FitzPaen II and Sir Bartholomew de Badlesmere of Kent.
[2 May 1316; to marry 25 July following] Robert III & Maud were minors [~age 6]. Dowry 200 marks land; security bond 20,000 marks.
Child marriage - both 6 years old.
Witnessed recognizance Feet of Fines case 285 file 30 no. 130 Entailed Wraxall, Stourton, & Stoke in Teignhead for life to Isabel [de Clifford] & then Robert III & Maud’s future.
and Fine of lands to secure dower
Military service abroad [1319/20] Pat. Roll 13 Edw II m. 12 Planned journey “over seas with Edmund of Woodstock.” No evidence he actually served –
likely a nominal inclusion under his father’s feudal obligations.
Death [before 10 Dec 1322] implied in later enfeoffments [16 Edw II] False burial record cited as buried at Grey Friars, York [Col. Top. et Gen. iv p. 78]. Another York misquote:
at 12 years of age, but author didn’t realize Latin translation: “Likewise, Lord Robert, son of Lord Robert [son] of Payn”
Widow’s dower — Maud de Badlesmere Referenced Feet of Fines 1 Edw III Held Worth & Poole Keynes in dower after his death; remarried before 27 Mar 1324. Later Countess of Oxford.
> Clean Reconstruction
Robert [“Roger”] FitzPaen III [1310 – 1322]
Eldest son and heir-apparent of Sir Robert FitzPaen II and his first wife [unknown].
Betrothed in 1316, to Maud de Badlesmere, daughter of Sir Bartholomew de Badlesmere, Baron of Chilham, and Margaret de Clare.
Both were children at the time were about six years old, although the author didn’t realize this. The contract bound the families through a massive 20,000-mark bond and entailed lands to secure the match.
Robert III never reached majority and died without issue at about age 12, likely during his father’s northern service of 1322. Although the author incorrectly reported a burieal at Grey Friars Church in York and a likely death in
the Scottish wars, Robert III FitzPaen, the boy heir, almost positively died quietly in wardship in about 1322.
Maud survived him and later married John de Vere, 7th Earl of Oxford, becoming Countess of Oxford. She died 1366 at Colne Priory, Essex.
> Relevance to the Verified FitzPaen Descent
This page records the brief life of Robert III FitzPaen, the child-heir who never succeeded. His death explains why the 1354 entailed settlements named his two sisters — Isabel FitzPaen [wife of John Chidiok] and Elizabeth FitzPaen [wife of Richard de Grey] — and their heirs as recipients of the remaining estates and baronial rights.
His betrothal to a Badlesmere heir also tied the FitzPaens to Kent and Wiltshire lands around Chilham and Castle Combe, reinforcing the Kent-Somerset axis that had originated with Emma Paen de Northwood.