Roger was born in 1266, the son of William de Baskerville, de Northwood and Isabella [Emma] FitzPaen, de Northwood. The place is not known.
He died in 1298. The place is not known.
| Event | Date | Details | Source | Multimedia | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Birth | 1266 | ||||
| Death | 1298 |
Note 1
!Stylename: FitzPaen, Sir Roger [1266-1298]
!Source: THE KNIGHTS OF .EDWARD I. An investigation of the social significance of knightly rank in the period 1272 - 1307 based on a study of the knights of Somersete BY A. R. J . Jurica.
Presented to the University of Birmingham , Faculty of Arts, for the degree of Doctor of Pniliosophy in January 1976
https://etheses.bham.ac.uk/id/eprint/7628/2/Jurica_1976_PhD_7628.pdf
.... Robert FitzPain fought in Wales in both 1277 and 1282 18 9. He took....
Many favours were awarued to relatives of members of the courtly circle. In 1304 Robert FitzPain secured a grant of free warren
for his relative Roger FitzPain 240• part in many later A similar grant to Ralph Wake in 1290 241 was probably secured through
the influence of Alan Plugenet , his brother - in- law and a member of the royal household 242• Alan was granted free warren
later that year 243 • Such grants of free warren , a privilege more usually accorded to men of higher social standing , signified
the obligation felt by the Crown to loyal servants and military captains such as Alan P lugenet and Robert FitzPain campaigns.
In the Scottish expedition of 1296 he led a troop which included one knight and six troopers l90 . He served in Scotland on later
campaigns 9 and was marshal of the army in 1303 192• He wintered with the king in Dunfermline Abbey in 1304 l93. Robert participated
in such chivalrous activities as the tournament and his retinue provide a fitting milieu for those of his neighbours who were active
warriors l9 4 •.... - 218- in February 1304 , while the king was at the army's winter quarters in.... ome , including Robert FitzPain
and Simon de A'ion tagu, were promoted to important positions in the army command structure 37 . Dunfermline , John de Mohun and Hugh
de Cotil'tenay, as well as Robert FitzPain, dined with Prince Edward in Perth 35. ... Key posts of command were entrusted to older
warriors from prominent established families like Robert FitzPain, Simon de Montagu and Roger de Moels . Roger FitzPain was clearly
related to Robert FitzPain of whom he was a subtenant for land in Cary FitzPaine near Somerton 14 7. Roger was particularly active
in 1280 for he was elected to eight of the grand assize juries. Roger also held land in hampton for which he performed homage to
robert of Petherton, abbot of Glastonbury between 1261 and 1274 148• Roger's career was typical of those lesser knights with lands
near the county town. In 1279 he was chosen to perambulate the Somerset forests 149.....
Roger FitzPain was clearly related to Robert FitzPain of whom he was a subtenant for land in Cary FitzPaine near Somerton 14 7....
[by 1300],..., A few Swan knights were not so old. Robert FitzPain was about twenty- one and possibly slightly younger 79...,
Apendix I
FitzPain,
Robert FitzPain , 1287 ]d . l315]* <<< as ocr, this 1287 could be 1257, for Robert I. Text says 21 in a slightly unclear 1300.
[Cal . Close , 1279- 88 , 478]
Son of Robert ,
Robert , knighted 22 May , 1306 <<< Robert II
Roger FitzPain , 1269- 98 * <<< likely younger brother to Robert I. I’m going to say this was probably 1266, because of his father’s death.
[Glaston . Cart. ii, P• 448; Longleat MS . 5577]
Appendix III
Participants in the grand assizes invoked during the eyre of 1280 [in Somerset].
- page 287-
……………………Elector Elected
Roger FitzPain* 1 1
…
- page 293-
Roger FitzPain 8 1
……………………Elector Elected
1 A ninth panel included a juror called Reynold FitzPain.
Fine Roll C 60/43, 30 HENRY III [1245–1246], membrane 17.
https://finerollshenry3.org.uk/content/calendar/roll_043.html
142
Latin Text:
✚ De terris capiendis in manum Regis
Mandatum est vicecomiti Somerset' quod capiat in manum Regis terram quam Willelmus de Bingham tenuit
de Rogero fil' Pagani in balliva sua, cuius custodia ad Regem pertinet ratione terrae et heredum eiusdem
Rogeri existentes in manu Regis. Et scire faciat omnibus qui clamant custodiam praedictam quod sint coram
Rege ad ostendendum quare non debeat remanere in manu Regis. Teste, etc.
Translation:
Concerning lands that are to be taken into the king’s hand. Order to the sheriff of Somerset to take into the king’s hand the land
which William of Bingham held of [Roger son of Pagani] in his bailiwick, the custody of which pertains to the king by reason of the
land and the heirs of the same Roger being in the king’s hand. Order to cause all in his bailiwick who claim right in the aforesaid
custody to know that they are to come to the king and the king will cause justice to be shown to them in respect of this.
Notes: The translation quoted is the one provided by the Fine Rolls project — only the name has been restored to what is actually written in
the manuscript. The actual document text uses: "Roger fil’ Pagani" which means, “Roger, son of Paganus".
Text being given in this way is just, "given name son of given name". It does not imply something used as a surname, like Fitz Payn.
Thus we are looking at the same mistake made by Cokayne and others. Paen, meaning someone from the countryside was a common historical
Welsh first name. Paganus, much the same in Latin, is what became the word "pagan", not a likely Welsh first name. Cokayne’s assumption
is backwards — the Latin does not support an early “Fitz Payn” family here.
!Source: Fine Roll C 60/43, 30 HENRY III [1245–1246], membrane 7.
https://finerollshenry3.org.uk/content/calendar/roll_043.html
491
Translation quoted from source:
19 June. Southampton. For [son of Paganus]. The king has taken the homage of [Roberti, son and heir of Rogeri son of Paganus], for all the lands
and tenements which Roger held in chief of the king. Order to the sheriff of Wiltshire to cause Robert to have full seisin of all the
lands and tenements of which Roger was seised as of fee on the day he died and which fall to Robert by hereditary right, saving to she
who was the wife of the same Roger the corn in the lands from the coming autumn, for which she will answer to the king at the Exchequer
of Michaelmas for a moiety of the farm of 100 m. which she was accustomed to render to the king per annum for the aforesaid lands.
Image: https://finerollshenry3.org.uk/content/fimages/C60_43/m07.html
Left margin in image reads “de Rob° fil’ Pagani” [Robert, son of Pagan].
In the body appears the standard homage formula:
“Rex cepit homagium Rob[ert]i fil’ et heredis Rogeri fil’ Pagani...”
“The king has taken the homage of Robert, son and heir of Roger son of Pagan …”
and
“…de omnibus terris et tenementis quae idem Rogerus tenuit de Rege in capite…”
“…for all the lands and tenements which the same Roger held of the king in chief…”
and
then the seisin order to the sheriff, with the widow/crops clause,
"I can see bladis and presentibus de momento frumenti, i.e., corn from the coming harvest."
Notes: The translation quoted is the one provided by the Fine Rolls project — only the name has been restored to what is actually written in
the manuscript. The record clearly says, “Robert son of Roger son of Paganus.” This is again, definitely not giving us a proto-surname
Fitz Payn. What it does do is make the same mistake Cokayne and others made in conflating "fil' Pagani" with a surname.
However, it is giving us a 3-generation genealogy, as was common at the time, where this Robert is the grandson of
a Paganus. This is a little closer to the situation of our Fitz Payn line, except our line had no actual son of Paen, but rather a daughter,
Emma with a husband named Sir William. As Ema inherited Paen's land, she used the name "Fitz Paen", which is the origin of the name.