UNKNOWN

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UNKNOWN was born about 1285, the daughter of unknown parents. The place is not known.

She died before 1319. The place is not known.

Her husband was Robert FitzPaen, who she married in ABT 1303. The place has not been found. Their three known children were Isabel (c1304-<1360), Elizabeth (c1306-?) and Robert “Roger” (c1310-1322).

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EventDateDetailsSourceMultimediaNotes
BirthABT 1285
DeathBEF 1319

Notes

Note 1

!Source: Google Groups https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/pBXpDWBcCeA/m/zEs1J2ZyCQAJ

C.P. Addition: Ela Lovel, wife of John le Marshal, 2nd Lord Marshal, and Robert Fitz Payn, Knt., 2nd Lord Fitz Payn

Douglas Richardson, Historian and Genealogist

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,…, JOHN MARSHAL died 12 August 1316.

His widow, Ela, married [2nd] by royal license dated 29 June 1319 [as his 2nd wife] ROBERT FITZ PAYN, Knt., 2nd Lord Fitz Payn,…,

son and heir of Robert Fitz Payn, 1st Lord Fitz Payn, of Allowenshay [in Kingstone], Somerset, Steward of the King’s Household, Keeper of the Forest south of Trent, by Isabel, daughter of John de Clifford, Knt….

!Source: The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant,

Extinct, or Dormant G. E. Cokayne; new edition rev. Vicary Gibbs & H. A. Doubleday

Vol. V [Eardley of Spalding to Goojerat]. London: The St Catherine Press, 1926 [cancelling 1921 issue]

p. 463 – FitzPayn.

https://archive.org/details/CokayneG.E.TheCompletePeerageSecondEditionVolume5EAGO/page/n239/mode/2up

> page 463 matches:

Function Record Location

1. Parentage & Birth Patent Roll 18 Edw III p. 2 m. 34d ; Described as Robert FitzPayn the younger; younger son of Sir Richard de Grey of Codnor by Joan FitzPayn

19 Edw III p. 2 m. 31d . Born ~1321 .

2. Marriage to Elizabeth de Briene Papal Letters vol iii p. 450 Married Elizabeth, daughter and in her issue co-heir of Sir Guy de Briene of Laugharne & Walwyn’s Castle

[Lord Briene] by his 1st wife Joan de Carew. Elizabeth was still unmarried in 1351.

3. Inheritance from Uncle Sir Robert FitzPayn Close Rolls 28 Edw III m. 2; 30 Edw III m. 21 Upon his uncle’s death in 1354, Robert and Elizabeth inherited the manors and advowsons of Cheddon, Staple,

Charlton Mackrell, and Cary Fitzpaine and Wraxall under the fine of 28 Edw III. Livery granted

20 Dec 1354; homage respited as Robert was in the King’s service abroad with Guy de Briene.

4. Further Inheritance from Ela FitzPayn Close Rolls 30 Edw III m. 21 Succeeded to Stogursey & Rodway , Okeford Fitzpaine , and the Hundred of Cannington by

virtue of the earlier fines . Livery 6 Mar 1355/6.

5. Lease of Wraxall and Stourton Manors Inq. a.q.d. 33 Edw III file 331 no. 4; Conveyed Wraxall & Stourton to John de Vere, Earl of Oxford, and his wife Maud for life at £200 rent per year,

Patent Roll 33 Edw III p. 2 m. 25; remainder to Robert & Elizabeth and their heirs. Licence 1 Jul 1359.

Feet of Fines case 288 file 46 no. 572

6. Military Service & Later Life Scrope & Grosvenor Case Deposition Testified in heraldic trial; stated his age as “ sessant et cynk anz ” . Still living 1386. Described as

brother-in-law to Guy de Briene the younger.

7. Family Connections & Issue Guy de Bryene the younger’s will Styled “ mon treschere frere Robard le FitzPayn .” Issue unknown or died s.p. Barony extinct in male line. Co-heirs

Coll. Top. & Gen. iii p. 253 fell to daughters of Robert’s aunts .

> Clean Reconstruction

Sir Robert FitzPaen III [ ~1321 – aft 1386 ], styled “the younger,” was the younger son of Sir Richard de Grey of Codnor [ Lord Grey ] and Joan FitzPaen, daughter of Sir Robert FitzPaen and Isabel his wife. Born about 1321 , he took his mother’s name and arms by entail and was known in records as Robert FitzPayn le Jeune or de Grey alias FitzPayn.

He married between 1351 and 1354 Elizabeth de Briene, daughter and in her issue co-heiress of Sir Guy de Briene of Laugharne and Walwyn’s Castle [ Lord Briene ] by his first wife Joan de Carew. On the death of his uncle Sir Robert FitzPaen [ 2nd Baron ], he and Elizabeth inherited the family’s remaining Somerset and Dorset estates — Cheddon, Staple, Charlton Mackrell, Cary Fitzpaen, and Wraxall — by virtue of a fine of 28 Edward III. Royal livery was granted 20 Dec 1354, his homage being respited as he was then in the King’s service abroad with Sir Guy de Briene. Following the death of Ela FitzPaen, he also succeeded to Stogursey, Rodway, Okeford Fitzpaine, and the Hundred of Cannington in 1356.

In 1359 Robert and Elizabeth leased Wraxall and Stourton to John de Vere, Earl of Oxford, and Maud his wife for Maud’s lifetime at £200 per year, with reversion to themselves and their heirs. He remained in close association with the Briene family, Guy de Bryene the younger calling him “my very dear brother Robert FitzPayn” in his 1386 will. Still living that year, Sir Robert gave his age as 65 in the Scrope and Grosvenor heraldic case.

The cadet FitzPaen line thus continued briefly in this Grey-FitzPaen branch, uniting the Codnor and Somerset properties but leaving no male issue and no summons to Parliament. On his death, the hereditary title remained in abeyance between the heirs of his aunts Isabel FitzPaen Chidiok and Elizabeth FitzPaen Grey, closing the recorded baronial FitzPaen line.