Thomas was born about 1440, the son of Henricus [Harris] / [Hull] / Hill and Sionett ap Howell. The place is not known.
He died on 23 SEP 1485 in London, England.
His wife was Elizabeth Tylor. They were married, but the date and place have not been found. Their eight known children were William (<1463->1501), Richard (c1467-1500), Agnes (c1469-?), Alice (c1477-c1494), Robert (c1478-c1535), Elizabeth (c1479-?), Edward (c1480-?) and Joan (c1481-c1498).
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| Occupation | Free grocer [after apprenticeship] in 1448, Lord Mayor of London, Knight |
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Note 1
!Stylename: Hill, Sir, Lord Mayor, Thomas, of London [~1440-23 Sep 1485]
!Note: Sir Thomas Hill is entered under Henricus Hull/Hill/Harris about 1417 because this branch of the Hill family, descending from Griffith Hill of Hodnet and Margaret Warrene, shows the correct age range and civic connections for Thomas’s background. The visitation of Shropshire traces the elder Hill line through Humphrey Hill of Blore, but that branch is already occupied by Thomas of Hodnet, the documented father of Rowland Hill, Lord Mayor 1549–50. If he died as recorded in 1485, Sir Thomas cannot be that same Thomas by date or offspring. Placing him as Henricus’s elder son explains the cousinship with Friar William Hill of Saint Thomas of Acre, a cousin, and the inclusion of Thomas Harris in his will, a likely relative from this same Hill-alias-Harris line. It makes sense that he would be in this part of the family, as the visitation for the Hull/Hill/Harris line was weak the first few generations, listing only the main heir, and skipping the rest of the family, thus leaving room for him here, where the family is less visible. It is also much closer to the southern Bewdley line which may eventually appear as full owners of Neeton. This position preserves chronological balance within the family and maintains consistency with the known descendants of Griffith Hill and Margaret Warrene.
!Note: This is not the official view but it actually fits and the political reality of the time after Bosworth makes it seem likely that Richard iii’s supporters might attempt to escape, with the plague or sweating sickness as a ready cover. The apparent death of Sir Thomas Hill, Lord Mayor of London, on 23 September 1485 coincided precisely with the aftermath of Bosworth Field and the first outbreak of the “sweating sickness.” Contemporary sources record that two Lord Mayors and six aldermen died in the same week — a sudden cluster that may reflect either the epidemic or a convenient pretext for Yorkist officials to disappear during the violent Tudor transition. Henry VII’s army had been heavily staffed by French mercenaries, and many Londoners who had prospered under Yorkist trade privileges had reason to fear reprisals.
Hypothesis: Sir Thomas Hill may have feigned death to a escape potential political purge. His “death” and probate in 1485 may have been legal formalities enabling his family to retain assets while he withdrew to Shropshire under a quieter identity. His possible re-emergence as Thomas Hill of Hodnet would fit chronologically, socially, and financially.
Supporting arguments:
• The will’s publication date falls the same day as the Battle of Bosworth — impossibly precise for a sudden sickness.
• The widow Elizabeth Tylor Hill managed the estate for sixteen years but no burial record has survived.
• The Thomas Hill family wealth reappears abruptly in Shropshire within three years, with identical names and connections .
• Yorkist-aligned London aldermen such as Sir Edmund Shaa and Thomas Hill vanish or “die” within months of Bosworth, suggesting coordinated retirements or flights.
Status: Unproven but historically plausible; entered to explain the reappearance of the Hill fortunes in Shropshire and continuity of the family line despite the supposed 1485 death.
!Source: England & Wales, Prerogative Court of Canterbury Wills, 1384-1858 for Thoma Hille, PROB 11: Will Registers 1384-1566 Piece 07: Logge
https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/5111/records/877576?tid=&pid=&queryId=406b9e5e-397c-4099-82da-a1d347c0b422&_phsrc=Xle404&_phstart=successSource
[Image Copyright requests no publication of the images, but they can be seen at the ancestry.com address].
Lord Mayor of London 1484/5
Will of Thomas Hille, Grocer
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In the name of God so be it Amen the xxij day of August the yere of our lord
mccccxxxv I Thomas Hille knyght maur of the Cite of london beyying of hole mynd
and in good mynd and in good memory knowynct that no thing in this said mortall lyff
at mor certayn than deth and no thing mor uncertayn than the our or tyme of the same
Willing with good grace not to departe frome my fate make ordayn this my said testament
of goodes of fortune such as it hath pleased almighty god to leve me in the man[ner] and
forme folowyng ffirst I bequeath my soul to almighty god my redemer and to the Blessed
virgyn his mother and his colege of saints and my body tobe buried in the church of Saint
Thomas of Acre in London in a place there on the same side of the Acre's ffondment in the
body of the same church called Saint Thomas Acre West Ward yf it may sobe done and
els as myght thoute as it may be don. Item I bequesth to the master of the same place
for my soul sepulture there tobe had XLs. Item I beqeath tobe destributed for my soule the
day of my buryment or on the morow folowyng my amoungs siad people than comyng the
du that is to Wete to any creature is as long and as few as xL shall extend to.
Item I will that my body be brought on earth in honest wise according to my degree [without] any
pompe as blandiful of the world and that the solumpnese of my exeqmet for my soule be don
forth with at my burying and that I have my honest tape[r] and xx hours torches to burn
above my body at tyme of my exegmet to be day for me wante any ghost in my wife
tobe made for me and I will that the same taper and torches by holder by xxiiy priests and
that any such prieste have for his labor vid and after all myn exeqence be doon for me I be-
queath the said,...xxtorches tobe disposed for my soul in the form [en]suyng that is to Wote
to the said Church of Saint Thomas of Acre my torches to my pa[ri]sh church called Colechurch
my torches to the church of Saynt Martyns in Itonmongre Lane n torches to the church of Saint
Mildred in the P[o]ultry n torches to the church of Saint Oluf in the Jewry n torches to the
church of Saint Pancras of London n torches to corpus X[for Christi] chapell n the p[o]ultry 1 torch to the
church of [Chipping] Camden in the comte of oxfo[rd]e n torches and to the p[ari]sh church of Mordon in the
comte of Surrey, 1 torch the same torch to burn in the soul churche to the Lorde and
prausence of almighty god and his saints as long as they may endur, though the churches
whereof well extend by afirmation x£ -- and I utterly forbedde any moneth mynde take
kept solompnoly for me after the guyse of the world in any man[ner] place but in the lord
Pride of my moneth mynde I will have don for me in the said church of the lord Saint
Thomas of Acre at Monethe end placebo and dirige by note and and evyn and masse of req[ui]em,
on the words by note n sobre and manly wise for my soule and for all other soules, and
I will that brede drink and chese of the season fall there to be ordayned for the priests
and clerks, then as other comers thereto, in my honest wise utterly forbeding any solompus
dyner tobe kept or ordayned for my cause, except onely a convenient repast for my wif,
my children, executours, and myn old ffrends such as they will call unto them, and also
my body be buried and my funerealy expence aforsaid be fully doon, then I will that all
the dette the which I ow to any man, p[re]sence of wich as of conscense, be first and payd -
most wole and truly paid, and in after all that sostinant be made first and formost
by myn apointee to them personse of faith, since of money so I have assigned tobe
restored unto them by myn own hande: writing of the moneth, personse, the namys,
and summse of money to them by me assigned, both comprised in a long gueyd
of paper of myn own hand writing, with summse of restitucion amounts to the
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to the summe of VIs CLVY£ - and after that don then I will the resdue of
my goods, catals, and dette what so ever they be, by myn executers be divided into my eqall
partes, Whereof I bequeth on eqall parte to Elizabeth, my wiff, for her person belonging
unto her of my good catals and dette after the custome of the Cite of London and bequeath
unto my children being unmarried an other equal parte of my said goods catals and dette
amount them tobe evenly distributed and veted. When and so they shall come into their
panfull age of xx1 years or els when they be married and I will that if any of them
die befor the said age of xxi years or else befor that the be married that their the parte
of that child or the part of the children so dying remayn to myn other children such being
amount them tobe divided and veted closly. When and as they shall come to the said
age of xxi years and the third eqal parte of my said goods, catals, and dettes , I reserve
and comitt unto myn executours they therof to performe my certaties governder known
that is to wete ffirst I bequeath to the church aw[l]ter of Colechurch for myn allarous xxs. Item
I bequeath to the werthy of the body of the same church XXs. Item i bequeath toward the sus-
tentanon of the ffrat[ern]inte of Saint Cathrin founded in the same church Cole. Item I will that
my soule shall be remembered dayly and weekly immediatly after my decease as well by the
chaunsary co-prieste the first mass at Saint Thomas aw[l]ter in the body of the said church
of Saint Thomas called the morow masse in the same masse as by the chaunsary co-prieste,
the church mass in the nav of the same church in the same masse and I will that only ob[it]
donory have wekely for me laber XYd as long as XX£ will extend therto and to the priest
mynst of the same, I bequeath XX£. Item I bequeath toward the repares of the louve and
ro[o]m of preyyng to the house of Saint Thomas of Acre aforsaid beyng in the Cite of
London and suburbes of the same to therent that the sorounds and sense of the same may
the better be paid to the master of the said place for the tyme beyng when church the
summe from then may the better be supported and maynteyned to the land and prysinct
of almighty god and his saints specally defering the maaster of the same place for
the tyme beying to have my soule redemened to the demaned prayers of the people
present in the same church by the prayours seying the words of god then for the tyme
namely in lenton season like as is reside there to be don for the saintse and other souls
seaking of the same XX£. I bequeath tobe as specified among the priests thought holey
in the XXV wards of the Cite of London by the desernment of wise scholars [and] my soule
as yet may goodly be don after my beste xxv£. Item I bequeath tobe disposed a-
mong the pour, ashowe for the tyme being determyd, in the despare of London aforsaid,
holsom bred as shall amount to the value of XLs yearly duryng the period of
v years next [en]suyng after my decese, and such sevrall times of the yer as they
shall have most nede therto, which amont in v years XLs. Item to be disposed
in like wise now the same time of v years amongst the pour esonce of Ludgate m[ore]
holsom brede end[of] yer the value of XLs, which amounts in v years other x£. Item I
bequeath to be disposed in like wise the same time of v years amongst the pour
esense in the Criste Cherch m[ore] holsom bred endy[ng each] year the value of XLs which [in the]
time of v years amongst the pour esouls in the Marchalsye [prison] more holsom brede and
therwith lynon cloth to be bought and shirt and smo[c]ke tobe made therof and dele[vered]
to pour people within half a year next after my decesse. Item I bequeath XX£ for soch
therwith tobe bought and gowns and coats to be made thereof and gave to pour people
worn the same half year next [en]suyng after my decease. Item I bequeath XX£ tobe
bestowed in my year next after my decease in cole to be bought therwith that is to
wete only the value of v£ at such seasone of the yer as after may best he had
at esye prise and tobe kept unto the wynter season next folowyng, and then namely
about Alhalowen tyde to be disposed yerly by the discricons of myn executours a-
mong pour housholders in the Cite of London in diverse Wardes i.e., in the Wards of
Chepe, Cordwainers’ Row, Colmans’ Row, and the wards where as my said execoutours
shall seme most expediont and nedefull. Item I bequeath XI mar[ks] tobe bestowed
in x years next after my decease in white heryng and sade hering to be bought
therwith that is to wete only you the valus of liys iiyd the same heryng to
be delt yerly during the said time agans t[he] entier season amoung the pour
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hospitallers and other poor people dwelling in the places of Spittlehouses in the counties of
Huntyngdon under such forme as my seule expense shall p'mydt therefor I bequeth to the
separ[at]ion of the higheway lying betweene Algate and Mylend to be spent within the precinct
next saying after my decease, in case that other stance in the mean time will set their
helping handle thos[e] to xx mark and of non other stanse will sett tho[s] helping handle tho[se] to
with the ford two years then I will that the ford xx mark be bestowed
forms saying that is to note those to their ending of the same highway in place neither
most nede shalle 10 mark and to the amending of the highway leding fro Bysshopsgate
towarde Ware in place when it shall be thought most needfull other x mark ,..., of the
year Aldermen and comone of the order of London with v years next saying after my decease
will do provide the manor and wayes to have the water at Padington to be conveyed by
pipes of leads from Thams unto the greate conduit of the Gate of London and to other
place of the same Gate if it shall seme to them noteworthy so to do then I bequeth toward
the same work landmark and to the intent that or conduit with the space of v years next
August after my decease may be made at Gracechurch with good helping handes of well
waters therto and part of the same water to be brought unto the same conduit from
the leade pipe. I bequeath to the same work 1 mark. Item I bequeath to my Sister
Elizabeth ffynch XX£. Item I bequeath to my sister Johnna Hyppingale XX£. Item I bequeath
to my sister Alice Dawes XX£. Item I p[ar]don to my nebew John Hille grocer that was
my apprentice xvy£ xiijs iiyd of the + mark the which he oweth me of money
borowed so that he pay to my exe[g]ences the xx£ – being residue of the sending
mark. Item I bequeath to my nebew Thomas Hyppingale for hym and his children xx£.
Item I bequeath to his brother John Hyppingale for hym and his children x£ Item I
bequeath to their brother Robt Hyppingale x£ Item I bequeath to my neice the wif
of Willim Tame v mark Item I bequeath to myn other neice her sister v mark Item I
bequeath to my Sonnya, and a daughter of my soul sister Alice the wife of Thomas Dawes
to each of them 20s. Item I bequeath to Willim Fforsome late of C[h]atsworth for hym
self his wife and his children v mark. Item I bequeath to Alice the daughter of my Soul
Sister Elizabeth ffynch v mark. Item I bequeath to Marion late[ly] the wiff of my brother
John Hille Xiiis iiyd. Item I bequeath to Martha her daughter and to her children xx£ Item
I bequeath to Adoleyn her other daughter x£. Item I bequeath to Johna his other daughter to-
ward the sustenance of her self and her children the X£ -- of myn with XX£ in the hands
of her brother John Hills. Item I bequeath to my cosyn Annes Hille app'[urtenant] wife Haygarth
Kingsbury Sol woman of London X marks. Item I bequeath to each of the brothers and sisters
of the same Annes XXs amounting among them by oft[he]ma[p]or[ti]on vi£. Item I bequeath.
to my cosin Friar William Hille sone of the brothers of the House of Saint Thomas of Acre
to pray for my soule X£ . Item I bequeath to the daughter of Elizabeth my wiff
the daughter of a family the which go[d] daughter is befited with [only] the paltry 20s.
I bequeath to my godson William Thorp the son of John Thorp grocer of
London £iij vs iiyd. Item I bequeath to my First Honey Ely which late was myn
app'wife X£ vs. Item I bequeath to Elizabeth now married late my First and
then called Elizabeth Tylor XXs. Item I bequeath to Thomas Haress somwate
toward the sustenance of hym and his children to the entent that he will take upon
hym the oversight and guiding of the distribution to poynt people of the collec[tion] above,
to be solvyd during the iiii [4] years aforesaid — £20. Item I bequeath to Anneys the wiff
of John ✝ Saye [of] Saybridge, toward the sustenance of her and his children v mark. Item I
bequeath to Margarete the wiff of William Triggonell toward sustenance of her and
his children v mark. Item I bequeath to John Parker [of] St Syvour to pray for me x£ and
the residue of the said in eqall p[ar]t of my said goodes chatalle and dette by me to myn
executer above sofered and counted I will it be disposed by myn executors by the difusion
in selebrant of poor espousal and of other poor peoples marriage of pour maidens anouncement
of souls and ansyne birth Weyes and in other jobs of p[ea]ice and charite as they shall hope
Best to please almighty god and most to plese unto my soule and the[n] my pur[e] testament.
I make and ordeyn myid executor Elizabeth my wiff, Rauf Tilmoy, Richard Walker grocer,
William Doughory, gentleman and my cosyn John Hille grocer, and I bequeth to each of the
said Rauf, Richard, William and John for his labor to be had in thir behalf XX mark and ther
outflow of this my said testament I make and ordeyn Sir Edmond Shaa knyght and
Alderman of London and I bequeath to the same Edmond for his labor to be hadd in that
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behalf L£ [50] tobe paid to hym within v yere after my decease that is to wete end year upon
passion Sunday X£ till he be full paide of the said L£.
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Transcription of probate clause in Latin:
Probatum fuit praedictum testamentum apud Grocers Hall coram Cumssarano 28 Octobre Anno dio
1485 ac approbatum est et commissa fuit administracios omnium sunt eius benefactore or debitore
per definitum: Elizabeth viduam, Radulpho Tilney, Richard Walker grocer et Willius Doughory
potestas executoribus mandatis habendis, ac de pleno inventario, et sine iuris iurandibus
et quamplen, ac de pleno compoto, conste.
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Translation of probate:
Proved was [the] aforesaid testament at Grocers Hall before [the] comissioner 28 October [In the] year of God
1485 and it was approved and entrusted to the administration of all those who are his benefactors or debtors
as defined: Elizabeth widow, Radulpho Tilney, Richard Walker, grocer, and William Doughory
Authority [to the] executors mandates to have, to render a full inventory, and without legal oaths
and completely, with a full accounting, consented.
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People mentioned:
sister Elizabeth ffynch
sister Johnna Ryppingale
sister Alice Dawes
nebew John Hille grocer, his apprentice
nebew Thomas Hyppingdale and his children
nephew [his brother] John Ryppingale and his children
nephew [their brother] Robert Ryppingale
niece, wife of William Tame
niece, her Sister
Sonnya, daughter of Alice and Thomas Dawes
Thomas Dawes, husband of sister Alice
Marion, wife of brother John Hill
brother John Hill
Martha, daughter of Marion and John
Adolyn, daughter of Marion and John
Johna, daughter of Marion and John
Annes, cousin, likely widow with property, Haygarth in Kingsbury, London, with siblings
Friar William Hill, cousin
unnamed goddaughter of wife Elizabeth
wife, Elizabeth Tylor
William Thorp, godson
John Thorp, grocer
Thomas Harris – possibly cousin or even his brother, from Hill→Harris line, worked with him in city projects
Anneys, possibly Agnes Danvers, widow of John Say [1415 – 12 April 1478]. He had 8 children by 1st wife Elizabeth [d, 1473]
Margarete, the wiff of William Triggonell
John Parker, possible priest
executor, Radulpho Tilney
executor, Richard Walker, grocer
executor, William Doughory
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Notes:
1. 1 mark = 13s 4d = 0.67 of a pound.
3 marks = £2.
15 marks = £10.
2. Grocers Hall is the most likely rendering of the probate location based on the will image. It was not Lambeth.
3. Note on Burial Site, St Thomas of Acre, London:
The Church of St Thomas of Acre stood on the north side of Cheapside, near Ironmonger Lane. It served as the guild
church of the Mercers and was used by the Grocers’ Company for burials. After the dissolution of the religious houses
in 1538, the Mercers purchased the site from the Crown in 1542 and converted the old church into their company hall.
The structure was destroyed in the Great Fire of 1666 but rebuilt on the same footprint. The present Mercers’ Hall,
6 Cheapside, London EC2V 6JP, now stands on that ground. The “West Ward” mentioned in this will refers to the western
part of the former church, beneath the modern hall
7. louve = lantern or vent in roof of a building.
8. "the pour esonce of Ludgate" = the poor souls confined in Ludgate Debtor's Prison.
9. Christ Church = a major London friary with charitable mission.
10. Marchalsye Prison = The Marshalsea, on the south bank - Southwark; notorious debtor’s prison.
11. Bread and linen charity = classic “corporal alms” pairing - feed and clothe the poor.
12. Fish allowance - ‘liys iiyd’ = 52 s. 4 d. per year, i.e. £2 12 s 4 d total—paleographic form verified.
!Source: https://coadb.com/surnames/hill-arms.html
[Lord Mayor of London, 1484]. Sa. a chev. erm. betw. three lions pass. guard. ar.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSMwPrHS5Jo transcribed from audio.
Hill, Lord Mayor, Sir Thomas 1484/5: Sable[black], a chevron ermine[white] between three lions passant guardant argent[silver].
!Notes: Arms similarities between Hotchkiss and Hill
Hugo de Wlonkeslow Hawheslowe [now Longslow], later known as Hill. Harl. 1241 [Longslow/Bird/Buntingsdale quartering] — and the “Hill of Buntingsdale” bit in Q4: Gules[red], a chevron between three pheons argent[silver].
Hotchkis [main] — Per pale gules[red] and azure[blue], a chevron engrailed or[yellow] between three lions rampant argent[silver]; crest: a cock’s head erased or between two wings displayed pelletée.
Hodgkis of Ampthill — Sable[black], a chevron or [yellow] between three griffins’ heads erased argent[silver]; crest: a cubit arm in mail argent, garnished or, holding a griffin’s head erased or, beaked azure.
Hill, Lord Mayor, Sir Thomas 1484/5: Sable[black], a chevron ermine[white] between three lions passant guardant argent[silver].
Comparison Chart:
Family/Branch Field [Background] Chevron Charges [x3] Crest
Hugo de Wlonkeslow Gules [red] Argent chevron Pheons [silver arrowheads] —
Hotchkis [main] Per pale red/blue Or, engrailed Lions rampant [silver] Cock’s head + wings
Hodgkis [Ampthill] Sable [black] Or Griffins’ heads [silver] Arm holding griffin’s head
Hill [Lord Mayor] Sable [black] Ermine [white] Lions passant guardant [silver] — <<<< Source for this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSMwPrHS5Jo
1. Backgrounds – overlap in red and black fields [Hotchkiss 1 v=black, 1 red/blue, Hill 1 black/ 1 red].
2. Chevron – all have one; Hill branches = silver/white, Hotchkiss = gold/yellow.
3. Charges – always three, usually lions or lion-kin, all in silver/white.
!Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_Mayor_of_London
It was once customary for Lord Mayors to be appointed knights upon taking office and baronets upon retirement, unless they already held such a title.
1482 Sir Edmund Shaa Goldsmith
1483 Sir Robert Billesdon Haberdasher[d]
1484 Sir Thomas Hill Grocer Died in office. <<<
1485 Sir William Stoker Draper Died in office.
1485 Sir John Warde Grocer
1485 Sir Hugh Bryce Grocer
1486 Sir Henry Colet Mercer First of two terms.
!Source: Will of Thomas Hill
Source: National Archives of the UK, Prerogative Court of Canterbury .
Reference: PCC 17 Logge.
Details: Thomas Hill, a grocer, wrote his will on August 22, 1485, the same day Richard III was killed at the Battle of Bosworth. The will was proved on October 28, 1485.
!Source: https://richardiii.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/10-126-The-Making-of-a-Minor-London-Chronicle-in-the-Household-of-Sir-Thomas-Frowyk-Died-1485.pdf
The chronicle itself was continued each year by three different persons 1483- 85, joined by two others 1485-97. The first scribe wrote in the name of the next mayor, Edmund Shaa, at some date after 28 October 1482 when he was sworn. A second person decided to amplify this by adding the fact that King Richard was crowned during Shaa’s year and that Robert Billesdon was the next mayor . The first scribe then went one better and contrived to insert that Queen Anne was crowned too — and the page had already begun to look a mess! The first scribe continued by noting that Thomas Hill was the next mayor and gives careful dates for Queen Anne’s death and burial at Westminster, adding a brief prayer for her soul. A third person then made a note of Richard 111’s death and burial with careful details and a prayer for his soul. The first hand then took up his pen again2 and made a series of entries recording when Henry VII entered London and that the sweating sickness included among its victims two mayors, two sheriffs and Sir Thomas Frowyk himself. Thereafter two or three hands continued the chronicle, the scribe who recorded the death of King Richard being the most active.
!Source: Bacon's History of the reign of King Henry VII https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=loc.ark:/13960/t4kk9sw4j&seq=262&q1=thomas+hill
page 232, #19 sweating sickness. Two lord mayors [Thomas Hill and Sir William Stokker] and six aldermen died of this disease in one week in London [see Hall’s Chronicle], and it is said that those whom it attacked not more than one in a hundred escaped.
!Source: Christian Journal for Global Health, The English sweating sickness of 1485-1551 and the ecclesiastical response, Omololu Ebenezer Fagunwa and Ayokunle Oluwasanmi Fagunwa
https://cjgh.org/articles/10.15566/cjgh.v7i4.449#CIT0009_449
The English sweating sickness was a turning point in English history. Historically linked to the battle between the armies of Henry Tudor and King Richard III , who lost support among the English people due to his harsh rule. This was in the era where the throne of England was controlled by the Wars of the Roses. To battle King Richard, Henry VII employed mercenaries from France. The invasion force crossed the English Channel on 7th August 1485 landing in Milton Haven, Pembrokeshire, Wales and marched on to England. At Bosworth Field, Leicestershire, England, Henry’s army defeated Richard III on 22nd August 1485, a victory that allowed Henry to be crowned as king.2 After the Bosworth battle, the new king went to Lincoln, where he caused supplications and thanksgiving to be made for his deliverance and victory, most likely at the Lincoln Cathedral, the world’s tallest building between 1311 and 1548. 9,10 However, it was commonly said among the people that his reign began with a sickness of sweat.9 The disease claimed the lives of many people including two Lord Mayors — Thomas Hills and Sir William Stokker, and six aldermen within one week.9 Henry VII’s royal wedding was partly delayed because of the prevalence of sweating sickness. Before the sweating sickness, he made an oath to marry Elizabeth of York on Christmas day of 1483. However, the wedding took place on the 18th January 1486, two years after the oath, no thanks to the sweating sickness.9 In addition, the king’s coronation was delayed due to the epidemic.4
!Source: Map of Early Modern London Home > Encyclopedia > Personography https://mapoflondon.uvic.ca/old/6.3/HILL6.htm
Sir Thomas Hill
Thomas Hill Sheriff Mayor
Sheriff of London from 1474—1475 CE. Mayor from 1484—1485 CE. Member of the Grocers’ Company. Monument at Mercers’ Hall.
MASL
Sir Thomas Hill is mentioned in the following documents:
A Survey of London
Survey of London: Bridge Ward Within
Survey of London: Cheap Ward
Survey of London: Temporal Government of London
The Grocers’ Company
The Worshipful Company of Grocers
The Grocers’ Company was one of the twelve great companies of London. The Grocers were second in the order of precedence established in 1515. The Worshipful Company of Grocers is still active and maintains a website at http://www.grocershall.co.uk/, including a brief history.
The coat of arms of the Grocers’ Company, from Stow . [Full size image]
The coat of arms of the Grocers’ Company, from Stow . [Full size image]
This organization is mentioned in the following documents:
A Survey of London
Complete Orgography
Complete Personography
Critical Companion to The Triumphs of Truth
Historical Personography
Livery Companies
London Survey’d
Survey of London: Cornhill Ward
The Cockpit
The Triumphs of Honor and Industry
The Triumphs of Honour and Virtue
The Triumphs of Truth
Weigh House
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Elizabeth Hille and Agnes Forster: the Long Widowhood
Elizabeth and Agnes chose widowhood over remarriage. Both were married only
once, both reached the heights of lady mayoress and both lived many years after their
husband’s death, but the way in which they chose to manage widowhood and their
children’s inheritance is notably different.
Elizabeth Hille provides a good example of a widow who used legal systems and
civic procedure to protect, and influence the direction of, a substantial patrimony in
the face of changing circumstances over sixteen years of wardship. She was widowed
during the sweating sickness outbreak; her husband, Sir Thomas, was in office as
mayor of London when he died suddenly on 23 September 1485.60 Elizabeth, as the
incumbent mayor’s wife with eight children , a substantial household
, the disruption of an abrupt termination to her
position as lady mayoress and her husband’s business, estates and considerable wealth to
manage, must have had quite a crisis to deal with in the aftermath of his sudden death.
57 Cal. Letter Bk, L, p. 267.
58 Sutton, ‘Agnes Don-Breton’, p. 191.
59 See especially the controlment roll for January to August 1490: TNA, E122/78/8 and The
London Customs Accounts. Part IV: The Tudor Dynasty . Number 1. 3 Henry VII
– 5 Henry VII , ed. S. Jenks, Lübeck 2016, pp. 171–208.
60 PCC Logge, ii, no. 225. Hille died on 23 September 1485. Sir William Stokker took his place as
mayor but he also died of the sweat just two days later: The Great Chronicle of London, pp. 239,
438 ,
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Elizabeth’s widowhood is more traceable than that of many of her contemporaries.
Thomas Hille gained the freedom of the city as a grocer in 1448. Elizabeth was the
daughter of Thomas Garnon of Gloucestershire but had good mercantile connections <<< Misstated. Thomas Will names her as Elizabeth Tylor.
in the city which would have been useful to Thomas, himself a first-generation
Londoner.61 She was a cousin of the established and wealthy London goldsmith, Sir
Edmund Shaa.62 Her sister, Joan, married Ralph Tilney of Hertfordshire who had
come to London as apprentice to Thomas Hille and who gained the freedom of the
city in 1464.63 Elizabeth’s family certainly seemed to be useful to Thomas Hille. Tilney
and Shaa often appear in property transactions alongside him, and Shaa was entrusted
by Thomas to oversee the execution of his will. Neither Elizabeth nor Thomas
had been married before and the nature of the surviving documentation suggests a
successful marriage, underpinned by a solid working partnership in life and a strong
bond of trust in death. Thomas evidently understood and valued his wife’s capability
and trusted her competence: he made her the principal executrix and administrator
of his substantial moveable estate, and his property.64 But Elizabeth must have had a
good working knowledge of her husband’s affairs during his life. Although his death
was a sudden one, Thomas had organised his financial affairs to the extent that he had
made a record of personal debts owed, listed and prioritised in his own hand. Within
three weeks of his death, Elizabeth is recorded as having acted on this: on 18 October
a William Langford acknowledged receipt of £50 from Elizabeth in final payment
of £266 13s. 4d. for properties Thomas had purchased in St Pancras in 1484.65 The
efficiency of this transaction, despite the upheaval she must have been facing, set the
tone for her widowhood and the wardship of her children’s inheritance.
Thomas’s trust in Elizabeth extended to the fact that he laid no requirement on her
to use the civic fiduciary process for his children’s moveable patrimony, nor made any
caveat around her potential remarriage.66 With a moveable dower and guardianship
of an orphans’ portion worth a combined £3,700, as well as her civic experience as an
61 He was from Kent: Thrupp, Merchant Class, p. 350.
62 Edmund Shaa named Elizabethe Hille as his cousin in his will of 1488: TNA, PROB 11/8/187.
63 Thrupp, Merchant Class, p. 370. In her will of 1501, Elizabeth appointed ‘her brother, Ralph
Tylney’ as her overseer. He was in fact her brother-in-law: TNA, PROB 11/12/397; CCR 1500-09,
p. 25 and CPR 1485-94, p. 221.
64 The document enrolled in the Logge register for Thomas Hille is a testament only, dealing
with the disposal of his moveable goods. His will, devising property and landed estates in
Cambridgeshire and Essex, does not survive, but is referred to in property deeds in London.
Historical Gazetteer of London Before the Great Fire Cheapside; Parishes of All Hallows Honey Lane, St
Martin Pomary, St Mary Le Bow, St Mary Colechurch and St Pancras Soper Lane, eds D. Keene and
V. Harding, London, 1987, pp. 294–8.
65 CCR 1485-1500, p. 13; Keene and Harding, Gazetteer, pp. 782–90.
66 Thomas’s testament is relatively sparse in detail concerning his family. He portions his
moveable estate into thirds but does not mention any of his children by name, nor leave any
material bequests to them. He was seemingly content to leave all such personal division of goods
to Elizabeth: PCC Logge ii, no. 225.
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137
alderman’s wife and a lady mayoress, Elizabeth Hille would have been a very attractive
prospect on the London marriage market. Rather, she chose to remain in widowhood
for the sixteen years of life remaining to her and she took it upon herself to manage her
family’s affairs. As well as actively taking the lead in the execution of her husband’s civic
legacy , Elizabeth is personally named in
notable transactions involving the moveable wealth and property left to Thomas’s
heirs, suggesting that she was directly involved in the management of the children’s
inheritance until their coming of age.67
Elizabeth and Thomas Hille had eight surviving children. The eldest, William,
was born before 1463 and at least seven others followed: sons Richard, Robert and
Edward, and four daughters; Elizabeth, Alice, Agnes and Joan. At the time of their
father’s death in 1485, all eight were alive with seven of them under-age.68 By the time
Thomas’s estate was settled in 1488, the children’s portion amounted to a combined
£1,885 12s. 4d. Elizabeth chose to pass the capital worth of the estate through the
civic trust process, but have it loaned back out to her. Like Elizabeth Denys before
her, this meant that it was she who was bound under a legal recognisance and financial
bond to return the sum of £1,885 12s. 4d. to her children upon their coming of age/
marriage with appropriately accrued interest. Her guarantors were family: her brother-
in-law, Ralph Tilney, now an alderman, her husband’s nephew and former apprentice,
John Hille, and her two eldest sons, William and Richard Hille, now both grocers.69
There is nothing in the civic records to suggest that Elizabeth defaulted in any way on
the loan. Two daughters, Alice and Joan, had died while still underage and Elizabeth
oversaw the division of their portions amongst their surviving siblings
as well as paying out due money to the husbands of her two surviving daughters:
Agnes married John Croke, a draper, in 1490 and Elizabeth married Ralph Latham, a
goldsmith related to the Shaa family, in 1498.70
This personal approach is further reinforced by Elizabeth’s name appearing
specifically in property and land transactions concerning a feckless eldest son for
over a decade. William Hille was his father’s heir and inherited Thomas’s lands in
67 Cal. Letter Bk, L, p. 280; The Great Chronicle, p. 320. For Elizabeth Hill and the Guildhall
legacy, see C.M. Barron, The Medieval Guildhall of London, London 1974, p. 120.
68 Richard had come of age by 1488 but Robert was only seven when his father died in 1485 and
Edward was younger. Of the girls, Alice and Joan were alive in 1485 but they had died in minority
by 1494 and 1498. Agnes and Elizabeth married, but not until 1490 and 1498 respectively.
Richard died in 1500 and his will refers to deceased brothers as well as his two sisters: Cal. Letter
Bk, L, p. 249; CIPM Henry VII, ii, p. 299; CCR 1500-09, p. 24.
69 Cal. Letter Bk, L, pp. 234, 237, 249.
70 Cal. Letter Bk, L, p. 249. It has been suggested that Agnes Hille was the widow of a William
Chester when she married John Croke. It is probable, however, that John had a first wife, also
named Agnes, who was Chester’s widow. Croke claimed Agnes Hille’s patrimony from Elizabeth
in 1490, upon their marriage. Had she been a widow this would have been claimed by her first
husband. See K. Lacey, ‘Margaret Croke ’ in Medieval London Widows, pp. 143–64.
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Huntingdon and Essex, as well as numerous London properties.71 William, however,
appears to have been somewhat inept at managing his affairs. In 1487, he gave up the
rights of ownership of six of the properties in St Pancras, left to him in his father’s
will, ‘to Elizabeth’s use, for £300 paid by her’.72 This was probably driven by a need
to find ready cash. Elizabeth seems to have given William the money although he did
not transfer the messuages into her name. Four years later, those same properties had
to be recovered by means of a court transaction by Edward Underwood, a clerk, who
was acting on behalf of Elizabeth Hille. William had got into financial trouble. Earlier
in the same year, in February 1491, a legal memorandum written in the Close Rolls,
recorded that William owed his mother and brother, Richard, £880 for ‘ready money’
delivered to him by them at various times. He entered into a recognisance to pay the
sum back and, in part payment, signed over all the merchandise held in the shops and
cellars his mother was allowing him to occupy and assigned her all debts due to him
in business transactions.73 In 1494, at Elizabeth’s request, he was made to give up the
properties in St Pancras once more, this time under a guarantee that he would do as
he was asked.74
To safeguard the other children’s inheritances, Elizabeth stripped William of any
property-holding and wrote him out of any further inheritance by a series of recorded
deeds. In the same year that she recovered the London properties from William, her
clerk, Edward Underwood, had recovered on her behalf, property in Gloucester and
Oxford that had descended to her upon the deaths of her brothers and brothers’
heirs. The 1494 transaction records that the property was to pass, after her death,
to Elizabeth’s sons, Richard, Robert, Edward and William successively – William
being placed last after his three younger brothers.75 At the same time, probably as part
of the debt owed, the land in Huntingdon and Essex which William had inherited
from his father was transferred out of William’s hands to Richard. When Richard
died in 1500, he devised his father’s lands to his widow for life, with remainder to
his brothers Robert and Edward: William, although still alive, was not mentioned
at all in Richard’s will.76 At Elizabeth’s own death in 1501, her third son, Robert, is
named as heir to the Gloucester property and, in
Elizabeth’s will, she devised all the family’s London properties to her youngest son,
Edward. William is mentioned with a minor bequest but comes at the end of a long
list, behind children, grandchildren, godchildren, friends, priests and even a member
of Elizabeth’s household.77
71 CIPM Henry VII, i, p. 120; Keene and Harding, Gazetteer, pp. 294–8, 782–90.
72 Keene and Harding, Gazetteer, pp. 782–90.
73 CCR 1485-1500, p. 152.
74 Keene and Harding, Gazetteer, pp. 782–90.
75 The inheritance was originally recorded in 1488, but it was not until 1494 that Elizabeth,
acting through Underwood, secured it: CPR 1485-94, p. 221; CCR, 1485-1500, p. 217.
76 CCR 1500-09, p. 45.
77 CIPM Hen VII, ii, p. 487; TNA, PROB 11/12/397; CCR 1500-09, p. 24.
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139
All the widows examined above are visible by the traces their decisions left behind in
civic and central court records. But for thousands of other London medieval widows,
the decision to carry out the execution of a husband’s wishes without recourse to any
civic support has consigned them to obscurity. While they are greater in numbers
statistically, they are naturally fewer in terms of traceable case studies. Just occasionally
however, one of these widows left evidence of their efforts elsewhere….
!Source: Dame Margery Astry, by CLAIRE A. MARTIN
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Image included of Figure 2 The Family of Sir Thomas Hill.
Note that Claire seems to have really looked into Sir Thomas Hills family and has developed many sources and a lot of good information, but she also jumps to conclusions occassionally and also pushes the concept that his family was a long line of London Grocers, which is rather unlikely. This is OCR text and it may sometimes glitche a bit on copying.
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Origins and Natal Family: The Hills of Hitchin
Margery's father was a John Hill, grocer, of whom very little is known.z His
home and Margery’s birthplace is likely to have been Hillend, the Hertford-
shirehome of the Hill family.3 Situated near Langley, five miles south of
Hitchin, it overlooked the chapel of Minsden which Margery remembered in
her will. She bequeathed ‘unto out lady chapel of mynneston nygh hichyn in
the countie of hertfordwhere Iwas borne, a chalis wifln a patent of silver all
gilt whiche is occuupied in my chapell'.4 The family included several grocers of
London and was presumably prosperousand comfortable. Certainly, he: fam-
ily were in a position to provide the financial backing for her to marry well.
This was vital in securing a daughter’s future and many of London’s great wid-
ows would have benefited fromsuch financial assistance.s Margery's will also
records the existence of a brother named Stephen, 2. grocer of London, who
had died by 1523leaving a widow and two sons, Robert and Thomas, both still
young enough for Margery to leave money for their schooling. Stephen must
have been either considerably younger than his sister Margery or fathered chil-
dren late in life because by 1523, Margery’s own children were grown and ma:-
ried themselves. This is essentially all that can be ascertained of Margery’s im-
mediate family but other relatives are plentiful and throughout her life Margery
seemsto have mainmined close contactwith her extended family. Of twenty-
two family members remembered in Margery’s will, ten can be identified as the
married siblings of he: ‘cosynRichaxd Hill’, including her ‘cosyn Lane and his
wife’, ‘Nicolas Cosyn and his wife’ and Agnes Gascoyne.‘ This sugests strong
links with this side of the family although the precise relationship remains un-
certam.
Richard Hill left his markon history by the survival of his commonplace
book, now in the library of Balliol College, Oxford.7 It contains a varied collec-
1 TI): Vidtation of the Cauny of Huntingdambin,ed. by Sir H. Ellis, Camden Society
1849, pp. 98-99. H.C. Andrews, ‘The Hill and Astry families of Langley and Hitchin',
Emt Hem Arr/Jaealog'mlSat-icy Tramam'am',vol. 12 , pp. 32-39. R.E. Chester
Waters, Gmmlog'mlMemoir: q“ the Famifi'e: of Clutter and of Any, London 1881. W.P.
Hills, 'Richard Hill of Hillend and Balliol MS. 354’, Note: andQum'eI, vol. 177 ,
pp. 452-56.
3Andrews, p. 38. The site is now occupied by Langley End, dating from c.1900.
4'The National Archive , Prerogative Court of Canterbury, PROB
11/21, ff. 198-99v.
5 Despite the legend of her rise from poverty, Thomasine Percyvale’s family was well
connected and her brother becamemayor of Launcestonin 1512, Davies, p. 187.
° John Lane, the husbandof Margery’s cousinElizabeth, is also a witness to her will.
7 Songs, Comb and other Mimi/anew: Pam: fmm the Bafial MS. 354 Rirhzmd Hill's
CommonplawBook, ed. by R. Dyboski, Early English Text Society, ES vol. 101, 1908;
repr. 1937.
2
tion of poems, songs and ballads as well useful information such as advice on
the breaking of horses, medicinal recipes and commercial rules and references.
The manuscript also summarises some of the main events in the life of the
owner and details the godparents of his children. Richard statesthat he was
'bome on hillend / in langley in the parishe of huchy[n] in the shire of
hartfford’ and it was here that his first child John was bornin 1518. By 1520he
had moved to London and his secondchild Thomas was bornat Freshe Wharf
in the parish of St Botolph. By 1522he had settled in the London parish of St
Andrew Undershaft, where his last fourchildren were born. Among the god-
parents of his offspring occur some familiar names. John Lane and Nicholas
Cosyn his bromets-in-law appear as godfathers and his sisters Margaret Pre-
ston, Elizabeth Lane and Eme Cosyn as godmothers. Elze Astry, the wife of
Margery’s son Henry Astry, whom Richard refers to as cousin, also becomesa
godmother as does her sister Mary.
Richard had been apprenticed to John Wyngax, grocer, alderman and
mayor, and must have completed this by at least 1508 because in that year he
was made free among the merchant adventurers of England, although it was
not until 1511that he was swornat Grocets’ Hall.8 This means Richardmust
have been bornaround1482 and if Margery lived to be around sixty she would
have been bornaround 1463, making a difference of at least nineteen years in
their ages.9 The existence of a significant variation in ages is supported by the
fact that Margery had her children in the 1480s and early 14905 while Richard
Hill had his children, mostly in the 15205.10
' Songs Cami: etc,pp. xii-xv.
9 If Richard completed a ten year apprenticeship by 1508at the latest, he would have
started in 1498. An average of age of sixteen for commencementof the indenture
producesa birth date of c.1482.The average life expectancy of a sample of 47 London
merchantswas 58 and there were contemporary complaints that old age began around
fifty. Caxton was just pastfifty when he wrote ‘age crepeth on me dayly’, S.L. Thrupp,
The Meir/Jam Class of Medieval London, Michigan 1948; repr. 1996, p. 195. Rosenthal’s
analysis of peers born in the 14th and 15th centuries show that most lived into their
fifties but living to sixty or more was not uncommon, ].T. Rosenthal, Old Age in Late
MedievalEngland, Philadelphia 1996, pp. 123-24.
'° Margery's first son Thomas Edward was still underage when her secondhusband
made his will in 1490 and he must havebeen born between approximately 1480 and the
death of William Edward in 1487.Margery would have been about 18 in 1481and he is
unlikely to have been born before that. Fleming estimatesthe average age at marriage to
be between seventeen and twenty-four, P. Fleming, Family Md Housebokl in Medieval
England Basingstoke 2001, p. 22. Thrupp highlights forty-one caseswhere the wife’s age
at marriage is known, producing a median age of seventeen,Thrupp, p. 196. Margery's
last son Henry Astry has to have been born between 1492 and 1494. The will of Robert
Revell was proved in March 1491 and Ralph Astry died on the 18 November 1494.This
makes it highly unlikely that Andrews is correct in his suggestion that John Hill,
4
The other Hill family with possible connections to Margery is the family of
Sir Thomas Hill, grocer, alderman and mayor, but the relationship does not
appear to have been close. In her will Margery mentions a William ‘Hilles’,
priest, and although she does not specify a relationship, this was probably the
William ‘Hille’ termed cousin in the will of Sir Thomas Hill and one of the
brethren of the house of St Thomas of Acre. By 1500, when Sir Thomas’s
widow Dame Elizabeth made her will, he had become the master of St Tho- <<<<
mas of Acre.u There is also a Robert Hill named in the will of Ralph Astry in
1494 as his apprentice who could possibly be the son of Sir Thomas.12 When
Elizabeth Hill died in 1501there was an inquisition in which Robert Hill aged <<<<
twenty-three and more was named as her heir.13 This would make him fifteen
in 1494, the age when he is most likely to be apprenticed. Dame Margery Astry
and Dame Elizabeth Hill also appeax together in the Great Chronicle of London <<<<
as donors of £10 each to the building of the kitchens at Guildhall." The likely
author of the chronicle, Fabian, was a drape: who became a sheriff for London
in 1493 and an alderman for Farringdon Without in 1494. This ward had pre-
viously been held by Margery’s secondhusband Robert Revel] and between
1493 and 1494 her third husband Ralph Astry was mayor. Fabian certainly
knew Ralph and Margery and probably knew Dame Elizabeth Hill. The fact <<<<
that only these two are named, among the ‘sundtywidows’ who donated to the
kitchen project, sugests that they were linked in Fabian’s mind. When we
Margery's father, may have been a brother to Richard Hill, Andrews, p. 33. It is far
more likely that Richard Hill’s father Thomas was of the samegeneration as Margery's
father John, maybe a brother, and Richard and his siblings would literally have been
Margery’s first cousins.This seemsrealistic as Richard was similar in age to Margery's
younger brother Stephen and they had their children aroundthe sametime.
" Sir Thomas Hill, TNA, Prerogative Court of Canterbury, PROB 11/7, ff. 13lV-33.
Dame Elizabeth Hill, TNA, Prerogative Court of Canterbury, PROB 11/12, f. 186. <<<<
'2 The Robert Hill, son of Stephen Hill and the Robert HilL son of Richard Hill are
both far too young. Three of Sir Thomas’sfour sonscan be identified as grocers. In
1488, Dame Elizabeth Hill appears before the mayor's court and enters into a bond of <<<<
£1,885 12: 4d for payment of patrimony to the younger children of Sir Thomas.Among
her supportersare William, Richard and John Hill, grocers. John Hill was the son of Sir
Thomas’sbrother John, and an ext-apprenticeof the mayor. William and Richard were
Sir Thomas'seldest two sons.Calendarqetter Book: of the Ciy of London:Letter Book L,
ed. by R.R. Sharpe,London 1912, p. 249. Edward Hill appears in the records of the
court of Chanceryfor refusing to repay money lent to him and is identified as a grocer,
TNA, C1/ 186/98. Robert, however, remains uncertain and could have become a
fishmonger.
" Cabndar of Int'n'am PoItMmtem Hang VII, 3 vols, London 1898, vol. 1, p. 299.
" The Grant Clmmirk of Inndon, ed. by AH. Thomas and ID. Thornley; repr.
Gloucester1983, p. 320.
5
tion of poems, songs and ballads as well useful information such as advice on
the breaking of horses, medicinal recipes and commercial rules and references.
The manuscript also summarises some of the main events in the life of the
owner and details the godparents of his children. Richard statesthat he was
'bome on hillend / in langley in the parishe of huchy[n] in the shire of
hartfford’ and it was here that his first child John was bornin 1518. By 1520he
had moved to London and his secondchild Thomas was bornat Freshe Wharf
in the parish of St Botolph. By 1522he had settled in the London parish of St
Andrew Undershaft, where his last fourchildren were born. Among the god-
parents of his offspring occur some familiar names. John Lane and Nicholas
Cosyn his bromets-in-law appear as godfathers and his sisters Margaret Pre-
ston, Elizabeth Lane and Eme Cosyn as godmothers. Elze Astry, the wife of
Margery’s son Henry Astry, whom Richard refers to as cousin, also becomesa
godmother as does her sister Mary.
Richard had been apprenticed to John Wyngax, grocer, alderman and
mayor, and must have completed this by at least 1508 because in that year he
was made free among the merchant adventurers of England, although it was
not until 1511that he was swornat Grocets’ Hall.8 This means Richardmust
have been bornaround1482 and if Margery lived to be around sixty she would
have been bornaround 1463, making a difference of at least nineteen years in
their ages.9 The existence of a significant variation in ages is supported by the
fact that Margery had her children in the 1480s and early 14905 while Richard
Hill had his children, mostly in the 15205.10
' Songs Cami: etc,pp. xii-xv.
9 If Richard completed a ten year apprenticeship by 1508at the latest, he would have
started in 1498. An average of age of sixteen for commencementof the indenture
producesa birth date of c.1482.The average life expectancy of a sample of 47 London
merchantswas 58 and there were contemporary complaints that old age began around
fifty. Caxton was just pastfifty when he wrote ‘age crepeth on me dayly’, S.L. Thrupp,
The Meir/Jam Class of Medieval London, Michigan 1948; repr. 1996, p. 195. Rosenthal’s
analysis of peers born in the 14th and 15th centuries show that most lived into their
fifties but living to sixty or more was not uncommon, ].T. Rosenthal, Old Age in Late
MedievalEngland, Philadelphia 1996, pp. 123-24.
'° Margery's first son Thomas Edward was still underage when her secondhusband
made his will in 1490 and he must havebeen born between approximately 1480 and the
death of William Edward in 1487.Margery would have been about 18 in 1481and he is
unlikely to have been born before that. Fleming estimatesthe average age at marriage to
be between seventeen and twenty-four, P. Fleming, Family Md Housebokl in Medieval
England Basingstoke 2001, p. 22. Thrupp highlights forty-one caseswhere the wife’s age
at marriage is known, producing a median age of seventeen,Thrupp, p. 196. Margery's
last son Henry Astry has to have been born between 1492 and 1494. The will of Robert
Revell was proved in March 1491 and Ralph Astry died on the 18 November 1494.This
makes it highly unlikely that Andrews is correct in his suggestion that John Hill,
4
The other Hill family with possible connections to Margery is the family of
Sir Thomas Hill, grocer, alderman and mayor, but the relationship does not
appear to have been close. In her will Margery mentions a William ‘Hilles’,
priest, and although she does not specify a relationship, this was probably the
William ‘Hille’ termed cousin in the will of Sir Thomas Hill and one of the
brethren of the house of St Thomas of Acre. By 1500, when Sir Thomas’s
widow Dame Elizabeth made her will, he had become the master of St Tho-
mas of Acre. There is also a Robert Hill named in the will of Ralph Astry in
1494 as his apprentice who could possibly be the son of Sir Thomas.12 When
Elizabeth Hill died in 1501there was an inquisition in which Robert Hill aged
twenty-three and more was named as her heir.13 This would make him fifteen
in 1494, the age when he is most likely to be apprenticed. Dame Margery Astry
and Dame Elizabeth Hill also appeax together in the Great Cbmm'c/eof London
as donors of £10 each to the building of the kitchens at Guildhall." The likely
author of the chronicle, Fabian, was a drape: who became a sheriff for London
in 1493 and an alderman for Farringdon Without in 1494. This ward had pre-
viously been held by Margery’s secondhusband Robert Revel] and between
1493 and 1494 her third husband Ralph Astry was mayor. Fabian certainly
knew Ralph and Margery and probably knew Dame Elizabeth Hill. The fact
that only these two are named, among the ‘sundtywidows’ who donated to the
kitchen project, sugests that they were linked in Fabian’s mind. When we
Margery's father, may have been a brother to Richard Hill, Andrews, p. 33. It is far
more likely that Richard Hill’s father Thomas was of the samegeneration as Margery's
father John, maybe a brother, and Richard and his siblings would literally have been
Margery’s first cousins.This seemsrealistic as Richard was similar in age to Margery's
younger brother Stephen and they had their children aroundthe sametime.
" Sir Thomas Hill, TNA, Prerogative Court of Canterbury, PROB 11/7, ff. 13lV-33.
Dame Elizabeth Hill, TNA, Prerogative Court of Canterbury, PROB 11/12, f. 186.
'2 The Robert Hill, son of Stephen Hill and the Robert HilL son of Richard Hill are
both far too young. Three of Sir Thomas’sfour sons can be identified as grocers. In
1488, Dame Elizabeth Hill appears before the mayor's court and entersinto a bond of
£1,885 12: 4d for payment of patrimony to the younger children of Sir Thomas.Among
her supportersare William, Richard and John Hill, grocers. John Hill was the son of Sir
Thomas’sbrother John, and an ext-apprenticeof the mayor. William and Richard were
Sir Thomas'seldest two sons.Calendarqetter Book: of the Ciy of London:Letter Book L,
ed. by R.R. Sharpe,London 1912, p. 249. Edward Hill appears in the records of the
court of Chanceryfor refusing to repay money lent to him and is identified as a grocer,
TNA, C1/ 186/98. Robert, however, remains uncertain and could have become a
fishmonger.
" Cabndar of Int'n'am PoItMmtem Hang VII, 3 vols, London 1898, vol. 1, p. 299.
" The Grant Clmmirk of Inndon, ed. by AH. Thomas and ID. Thornley; repr.
Gloucester1983, p. 320.
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consider that they also shared a commonsumame, some sort of relationship
seems likely. All this underlines the fact that Margery was bom into a prom-
inent Hertfordshire land owning family which would have been well known
both in Hitchin and in London. Their money came from trade and various
branches of the family were all closely associated with the Gtocers’ Company….
!Source: THE SURVEY OF LONDON BY ❦ JOHN STOW Citizen of London, first publication in 1598.
Multiple extracts regarding Lord Mayor Sir Thomas Hill below:
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HONOUR OF CITIZENS, AND WORTHINESS OF MEN IN THE SAME
Thomas Hill, grocer, mayor 1485, caused of his goods the conduit of Grasse street to be built.
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BRIDGE WARD WITHIN
Bridge ward within, so called of London bridge, which bridge is a principal part of that ward, and beginneth at the stulpes[190] on the south end by Southwark, runneth along the bridge, and north up Bridge street, commonly called New Fish street, from Fish street hill, up Grasse street, to the north corner of Grasse church; all the bridge is replenished on both the sides with large, fair, and beautiful buildings, inhabitants for the most part rich merchants, and other wealthy citizens, mercers, and haberdashers.
In New Fish street be fishmongers and fair taverns on Fish street hill and Grasse street, men of divers trades, grocers and haberdashers.
In Grasse street have ye one fair conduit of sweet water castellated with crest and vent, made by the appointment of Thomas Hill, mayor, 1484, who gave by his testament one hundred marks towards the conveyance of water to this place. It was begun by his executors in the year 1491, and finished of his goods whatsoever it cost.
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CHEAPE WARD
Now of the north side of Cheape street and ward, beginning at the great conduit, and by St. Mary Cole church, where we left. Next thereunto westward is the Mercers’ chapel, sometime an hospital, intituled of St. Thomas of Acon, or Acars, for a master and brethren, “Militia hospitalis,” etc., saith the record of Edward III., the 14th year; it was founded by Thomas Fitzthebald de Heili, and Agnes his wife, sister to Thomas Becket, in the reign of Henry II.; they gave to the master and brethren the lands, with the appurtenances that sometimes were Gilbart Becket’s, father to the said Thomas, in the which he was born, there to make a church. There was a charnel, and a chapel over it, of St. Nicholas and St. Stephen. This hospital was valued to dispend £277 3s. 4d., surrendered the 30th of Henry VIII.: the 21st of October, and was since purchased by the Mercers, by means of Sir Richard Gresham, and was again set open on the eve of St. Michael, 1541, the 33rd of Henry VIII.: it is now called the Mercers’ chapel; therein is kept a free grammar school, as of old time had been accustomed, commanded by parliament.[203] Here be many monuments remaining, but more have been defaced:—James Butler, Earl of Ormond, and Dame Joan his countess, 1428; John Norton, esquire; Stephen Cavendish, draper, mayor 1362; Thomas Cavendish; William Cavendish; Thomas Ganon, called Pike, one of the sheriffs 1410; Hungate, of Yorkshire; Ambrose Cresacre; John Chester, draper; John Trusbut, mercer, 1437; Tho. Norland, sheriff 1483; Sir Edmond Sha, goldsmith, mayor 1482; Sir Thomas Hill, mayor 1485; Thomas Ilam, sheriff 1479;[204] Lancelot Laken, esquire; Raph Tilney, sheriff 1488; Garth, esquire; John Rich; Thomas Butler, Earl of Ormond, 1515; Sir W. Butler, grocer, mayor 1515; W. Browne, mercer, mayor 1513; John Loke, 1519;[205] Sir T. Baldry, mercer, mayor 1523; Sir W. Locke, mercer, sheriff 1548; Sir John Allen, mercer, mayor 1525, deceased 1544; Sir Thomas Leigh, mercer,[242] mayor 1558; Sir Richard Malory, mercer, mayor 1564; Humf. Baskervile, mercer, sheriff 1561; Sir G. Bond, mayor 1587; etc.
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THE TEMPORAL GOVERNMENT OF THIS CITY, SOMEWHAT IN BRIEF MANNER
This year the sheriffs of London were appointed each of them to have sixteen serjeants, every serjeant to have his yeoman, and six clerks, to wit, a secondary, a clerk of the papers, and four other clerks, besides the under-sheriff’s clerks.
1474. The 14th, Edmond Shaw, Thomas Hill; mayor, Robert Drope, draper.
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1484. The 2nd, Richard Chester, Thomas Brittaine, Raphe Austrie; mayor, Thomas Hill, grocer, Sir William Stoaker, draper, John Ward, grocer.
Three sheriffs and three mayors this year by means of the sweating sickness, etc. Thomas Hill appointed by his testament the water-conduit in Grasse street to be built.