Margred verch Morgan ap Jenkin

Personal and Family Information

Margred was born about 1462 in Langstone, Monmouthshire, Wales, the daughter of Morgan ap Jenkin and Margred verch Dafydd ap Mathew.

She died about 1524 in Coity, Bridgend, Glamorganshire, Wales.

Pedigree Chart (3 generations)

Events

Notes

Note 1

!Source: WikiTree Margred St John

Born about 1462 [uncertain] in Langstone, Monmouthshire, Wales

Died about 1524 [uncertain] at about age 62 in Coity, Bridgend, Glamorganshire, Wales

Margred St John formerly ferch Morgan

Daughter of Morgan ap Jenkin and Margred gwraig Morgan ap Jenkin

Sister of Margery Kermeys [half], Cicely Vaughan [half], Thomas ap Morgan [half], John ap Morgan [half] and Anne Baskerville [half]

Wife of John St John — married about 1485 [location unknown]

Mother of Margaret St John, Alice Parker, Elizabeth Rotheram, Sybil Kirkham, Oliver St John, Alexander St John, John St John and Catherine Edgecombe

Biography

Margred,[1] Sibyl ferch Morgan ap Jenkin ap Philip.[2][3]

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She was the daughter of Morgan ap Jenkin ap Philip, Esq, of Langstone, Monmouthshire, by his 2nd wife Margred, daughter of Dafydd Matthew, Knt.[2] Morgan ap Jenkin was Lord of Langstone, a manor to the east of Newport in Monmouthshire.

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She married John Saint John, K.B., of Bletsoe, Keysoe, Riseley, and Sharnbrook, Bedfordshire and Buckinghamshire, son and heir by his father's 1st marriage. They had three sons and five daughters.[2][4]

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Children

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Sons

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John St John, Knt. of Bletsoe, Bedfordshire, married Margaret Waldegrave.[2]

Oliver St John, Knt.

Alexander St John, Esq., of Thurleigh, Bedfordshire, third son. He was a legatee in the 1509 will of William Morgan, Doctor of Law. He was a legaee and named one of the executors in the 1525 will of his father. He married by license dated 18 Nov 1530 Jane Dalison, widow of Thomas Levanthrpe, Esq .[5]

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Daughters

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Elizabeth St John, married Thomas Rotheram, Knt.[2]

Alice St John, married Henry Parker, Knt., 10th Lord Morley.[2]

Margaret St John, married Thomas Gamage, Knt., of Coity, Glamorgan.[2]

Sybil St John, married Robert Kirkham, Knt.[2]

Katherine St John, married Griffith ap Rhys/Ryce, Knt., then Peter Edgecombe, Knt.[2]

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Sir John Saint John left a will dated 22 March 1524/5, proved 23 May 1525, requesting burial in the chapel of St. Edmund on the north side of the church of Bletsoe, Bedfordshire.[2]

Research Notes

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Date Estimation

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Margred's husband was living in 1501 and made his will in 1525. Their son Alexander was an executor, therefore over 21, in his father's 1525 will. Alexander in 1530 married Jane, a widow.

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Estimate Jane's age at 25 at her second marriage in 1530, and Alexander aged 30, therefore born 1500. Alexander was the third son, perhaps the 5th child. Estimate the births of children 1-4 at two year intervals as 1492, 1494, 1496, 1498, and therefore place the marriage year of Margret and John at 1491. If she was 18 at marriage, her birth year would have been 1473. Her 8 children would have been born over a 16 year span from 1492 to 1508, and her death not earlier than 1508.

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Her marriage is currently shown, without source, as 1483.[6] If this is true, it would place her children's birth years back 10 years -- 1502-1518, and make Alexander a 20 year old rather than a 30 year old when he married a young widow. The 1483 marriage year is therefore questionable, but may be true depending on source and other facts.

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If Margred died early while her children were small, it is likely her husband would have remarried, but there is no record of him doing so; therefore we can presume she lived during her children's childhood. Richardson does not mention her being named in her husband's 1525 will, so she may have predeceased him. Therefore place her death at 1524.

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As of October 2, 2016, WikiTree shows children born beginning in 1480 and an unsourced birth year of 1462.

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Analysis by Jack Day, October 2, 2016.

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Additional Notes about Children: Childrens' birth years shown by WikiTree on October 2, 2016 are possibly unsourced and subject to further review .

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Alternative Information, from a 2020 merge with a profile that had a copy/paste biography from either Tudor Place or the Lewis database had the following .[7]

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Sybil Verch Morgan was born about 1462 at Langstone, Glamorganshire, Wales to Morgan ap Jenkin and Jane Mathew. She married Sir John St. John, Knt., about 1483 at Langstone, Glamorganshire, Wales.[7]

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Transferred from her husband's profile on 23 January 2024 but not edited or checked

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Margred ferch Morgan had a sister Elizabeth, born to Morgan's first wife Elsbeth ferch Sir Richard Vaughan. Elizabeth married Thomas ap Lewys .[8]