John Amadas

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Personal and Family Information

John was born about 1465 in Tavistock, Devonshire, England, the son of William Amadas and Margaret Hawkins.

He died after 1546. The place is not known.

He had two marriages/partners. His first wife was Ida, who he married in BEF 1520. The place has not been found. Their only known child was Judith (c1533-?).

His second wife was Elizabeth Buttockshide, who he married in ABT 1542. The place has not been found. They had no known children.

Pedigree Chart (3 generations)


 

John Amadas
(c1465->1546)

 

William Amadas
(c1420-c1467)

  
 
  
 
 
   
 
 
   
 
  
 
 
   
 
 
  

Margaret Hawkins
(c1425-c1467)

 

Thomas Hawkins
(c1365->1460)

 

John Hawkins
(c1333->1374)

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Joane
(c1325-?)

 
  

Unknown1
(c1390-?)

  
 
 
   
 
 

Events

EventDateDetailsSourceMultimediaNotes
BirthABT 1465
Place: Tavistock, Devonshire, England
DeathAFT 1546

Notes

Note 1

!Source: Margaret Amadas https://www.geni.com/people/Margaret-Amadas/6000000140443703986?through=6000000140443456096

Margaret Amadas

Gender: Female

Birth: between 1425 and 1435

Devonshire, England, United Kingdom

Death: between 1467 and 1487

Cornwall, England, United Kingdom

Immediate Family:

Wife of William Amadas, Esq.

Mother of Joan Hawkins

Added by: Duncan Hodder on June 28, 2020

Managed by: Duncan Hodder

!Source: WikiTree Margaret Amadas https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Hawkins-224

Born about 1450 [uncertain] in Cornwall, England

Died after 1470 after about age 20 in England

Biography

Henry Drake's 1881 edition of Hasted's History of Kent[1] cites Harleian MS 3288 as stating that Margaret, daughter of an unnamed Hawkins was the wife of William Amadas. This is the only known primary source that mentions her.

The only thing really known about her is her name and that she had children sometime in the late 1400s with William Amadas. It seems reasonable to put the date of her birth sometime around 1450 and death after 1470, but these are little more than wild guesses.

Children of Margaret and William include:

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John Amadas, born before 1489, at Court Gate, Tavistock, Devon. Their son, John, rose to be one of the King's serjeants-at-arms and a member of Parliament [2]

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Joan Amadas, who married John Hawkins and became the mother of Captain William Hawkins, born at Plymouth towards the end of the fifteenth century. He was an officer in the navy of King Henry VIII. [3]

Research Notes

Internet sources frequently make Margaret the daughter of Andrew Hawkins, ultimately based on a Harleian manuscript of unknown provenance which is given in an edition of the Visitation of Kent.[4] Other sources added Joan de Nash as Andrew's wife,[5] though the primary source for this is unclear. The magic of internet genealogy then made her into the mother of Margaret Hawkins. The chain of intermediate sources obscures the basic impossibility of this idea, since the inquisition post mortem of Andrew that the pedigree cites is dated 1340 . Since Margaret was having children in the late 1400s, this parentage really makes no sense.

!Source: The History of Parliament https://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1509-1558/member/amadas-john-1489-155455

AMADAS, John , of Court Gate, Tavistock, Devon; Eltham, Kent and Launceston, Cornw.

Constituency

Dates

TAVISTOCK1

1515

Family and Education

b. by 1489, s. of William Amadas of Tavistock by Margaret, da. of one Hawkins. m. by 1519, at least 1s. 1da.; 1542/43, Elizabeth, da. of Anthony Buttockshide of St. Budeaux, Devonshire, wid. of one Trevasper, 1s.2

Offices Held

Subsidy collector, Cornw. 1510, Devon 1542; yeoman of the crown by July 1517-?1530; comptroller and collector of customs, duchy of Cornw. 22 July 1517-d.; commr. subsidy, Devon 1523, 1524, musters 1536, 1539, relief, Cornw. 1550; dep.-bailiff, duchy of Cornw., Tavistock by 1527-Sept. 1530; King’s serjeant-at-arms ?1530-d.; jt. bailiff of liberty and clerk of the market, Tavistock 12 Sept. 1536-d.; j.p. Devon 1536-47, Cornw. 1554; mayor, Launceston 1544-5.3

Biography

John Amadas came of a family of Tavistock which had furnished at least one servant of the abbey there. While several of the family became London goldsmiths Amadas’s father made his career in the Household where he rose to be one of the King’s serjeants-at-arms. Amadas followed his father into the employment of the crown. In 1500 he was associated with his father in an enfeoffment to use but another decade was to pass before he began to figure in local affairs. His purchase of a silver cross in London for the parish church of Tavistock at the beginning of Henry VIII’s reign involved him in a dispute with the parishioners, who denied asking him to buy one. Despite this difference, which was eventually referred to the court of requests, he was returned to the third Parliament of Henry VIII’s reign: in 1515 his kinship with Robert Amadas, Wolsey’s goldsmith and later master of the King’s jewels, may have favoured his election.4

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Amadas is known to have sat in one Parliament but could have done so in others for which the names of the Tavistock Members are lost. If the town complied with the King’s call for the reelection of its previous Members in 1515 he had been one of its representatives in the Parliament of 1512. He is unlikely to have replaced William Honychurch in the Parliament of 1529 as he wrote to Cromwell from Tavistock while its successor of 1536, for which the King had sought the return of the previous Members, was in session. It is possible that he was the man whom Richard Fortescue superseded in 1545, and likely that as a Household and duchy official he promoted the return of a number of his colleagues.5

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As mayor of Launceston in 1545 Amadas returned William Cordell and Robert Taverner and helped to choose the knights of the shire for Cornwall. He was only to settle at Launceston after becoming a freeman during 1542-3, but the ties between the town and his family were ancient. It is these ties and his other domicile at Eltham, where his neighbours included William Roper, which suggest that he was the intermediary whereby John Rastell obtained election at Dunheved in 1529, and that Cromwell intended him to serve Rastell’s son in the same way at Tavistock after Honychurch’s death. If Amadas’s links with the More circle rest on speculation, his connexion with Cromwell is well attested. In 1534 he asked the minister unsuccessfully to take his son William into service and two years later he reported a remark made by the abbot of Tavistock about the suppression of the monasteries. Cromwell seems to have treated him circumspectly, perhaps because the Mistress Amadas who prophesied against the King and Anne Boleyn and predicted a Parliament of Peace to be held in the Tower may have been his first wife.6

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In 1526 the King had commended Amadas for a corrody at Tavistock abbey and by the Dissolution he held similar pensions from the priories at Totnes in Devon and Launceston in Cornwall. A measure of hostility seems to have persisted against Amadas at Tavistock after the dispute over the cross, and in 1529 he was allegedly forced to seek sanctuary during a quarrel with the father of John Fitz. His high-handed manner gave offence, and misunderstanding, often on his part, made him a frequent litigant. Despite these drawbacks he was named to the bench in both Devon and Cornwall. In 1536 he was ordered to supply men to suppress the northern rebellion and in 1544 he provided miners for the siege of Boulogne. By his will made on 6 Oct. 1546 he asked to be buried at Tavistock. After remembering various churches and charities he provided for his wife, children, grandchildren and ‘cousin’ William Hawkins. He left the mayor and aldermen at Launceston 13s.4d. for a dinner and named his wife executrix and his ‘son-in-law’ John Charles and serjeant John Harris supervisors. He was replaced by Nicholas Randall as comptroller of the customs in the duchy of Cornwall during 1554/55 and his will was proved on 20 Aug. 1555.7

Ref Volumes: 1509-1558

Author: Roger Virgoe