Iseult was born about 1170, the daughter of William Pantulf and Joan Goldington. The place is not known.
She died before 4 MAR 1238. The place is not known.
She had five marriages/partners. Her first husband was Hugh de Montpincon, who she married in BEF 1186. The place has not been found. They had no known children.
Her second husband was Walter de Tattershall, who she married in 1195 in England. Their only known child was Robert (c1195-1249).
Her third husband was Henry Bisset, who she married in ABT 1200. The place has not been found. Their two known children were John (1205-1243) and William (c1207-c1220).
Her fourth husband was Walter de Baskerville, who she married on BEF 29 SEP 1211. The place has not been found. They had no known children.
Her fifth husband was Amauri de Saint Amand, who she married in 1214. The place has not been found. They had no known children.
| Event | Date | Details | Source | Multimedia | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Birth | ABT 1170 | ||||
| Death | BEF 4 MAR 1238 |
Note 1
!Note: This woman was either the most unlucky bad girl of all time, or the most lucky murdress. I suspect the latter.
!Source: WikiTree Iseult de St Amand
Born before 1170 in England
Died after 1222 after age 52 in Kidderminster, Worcestershire, England
Iseult de St Amand formerly Pantulf aka de Montpincon, de Tattershall, Bisset, de Baskerville
Daughter of William Pantulf and Joan Pantulf
Sister of William Pantulf
Wife of Hugh de Montpincon — married before 1186 [location unknown] Wife of Walter de Tattershall — married 1195 in England map icon Wife of Henry Bisset — married before 1208 [location unknown] Wife of Walter de Baskerville — married about 1211 [location unknown] Wife of Amauri de St. Amand — married after 1214 [location unknown]
Mother of Robert de Tattershall
Biography
Isolda de Pantulf was a daughter of William de Pantulf and the granddaughter of William de Pantulf and his wife Burgia. Her grandparents had founded a priory at Langley, near Bredon, Leicestershire, for Benedictine Nuns.[1]
Spouses
She appears to have married five times:[2]
Hugh de Montpinçon
Walter de Tattershall, son of Robert de Tattershall & his wife Isabel
Henry Bisset son of Manasser Bisset & his wife Alice[3]
Walter de Baskerville[1] [4]
Amaury de Saint-Amand
"In 1217, Isolda Pantulf, who had married a second husband, Walter de Baskervile, and had again become a widow, confirmed to the nuns of Langley all that her grandfather William had given them, particularly the whole of Langley wood, the water-mill, with four bovates of land there, and free common in the wood and pasture adjoining that lordship; and one virgate of land in Kettleby, the gift of her grandmother Burgia."[1]
Research Notes
Death "after 1222" covers Complete Peerage's 1223, Richardson's 1228-1238, and even those who have after 1267, like FMG.
Sources
↑ 1.0 1.1 1.2 Monasticon Anglicanum, Vol 4, p 219 google books.
↑ Death date of Iseult Pantolf. Thread of 2007. Soc. Gen. Medieval SGM.
↑ Rotuli Litterarum Clausarum [Close Rolls]. Vol. I, 1833, p 191 digitale bibliothek.
↑ Coplestone-Crow, B. The Baskervilles of Herefordshire, 1086-1300. Transactions of the Woolhope Naturalists' Field Club, Herefordshire. Vol. XLII, 1979, Part I, pp 18-39 pdf.
FMG: ISOLDA Pantulf . m firstly HUGH de Montpinçon, son of ---. m secondly WALTER de Tattershall, son of ROBERT [de Tattershall] & his wife Isabel --- . m thirdly WALTER de Baskerville, son of --- . m fourthly HENRY Bisset, son of MANASSER Bisset & his wife Alice --- . m fifthly AMAURY [I] de Saint-Amand, son of --- . [1]
Our Royal Titled Noble And Commoner Ancestors - Iseult Pantulf
Richardson, Douglas. Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham, , Vol II, page 254, Robert de Tateshale and Maud d'Aubeney.
Burke's Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Landed Gentry, Volume 2, Tattershall or Tattersall of Lincolnshire, Essex, Kent and Surrey.
Descendants of Lord Eudo de Tateshall, Baron de Tateshall
!Source: NARKIVE https://soc.genealogy.medieval.narkive.com/pQyuz9EW/husbands-of-iseult-isolde-pantolf
Discussion:
Husbands of Iseult/Isolde Pantolf
Tony Ingham
18 years ago
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Could someone please assist me in tracing the husbands of Isolde Pantolf.
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A check of the archives revealed that Douglas Richardson wrote in 1999:
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Henry Biset, of Kidderminster, co. Worcester and Rockbourne, Hampshire,
benefactor of Hospital of Maiden Bradley.
He married Aubrey, daughter of Richard Fitz Eustace . . . .
He married Iseult Pantolf, daughter of Roger Pantolf, of
Abkettleby, co. Leicester, widow of Walter de Tateshall and Hugh de
Montpincon. He died shortly before 11 Dec. 1213. His widow married
Amaury de St. Amand of Bloxham, co. Oxford.
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Douglas stated that " This is based on original research not found
elsewhere in print."
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However, in examining the de Baskerville family of Eardisley
Herefordshire, I find that Iseult was described as the widow of Walter
de Baskerville in October 1213.
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Obviously either my source or Douglas' must
be at fault
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Tony Ingham
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Tony Ingham <***@@bordernet.com.au> wrote in
news:mailman.483.1184923724.5496.gen-***@@rootsweb.com:
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> Could someone please assist me in tracing the husbands of Isolde
> Pantolf.
>
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There's always a lot of confusion about the Iseult Pantulf who was married
to Walter de Tateshal. Firstly her parentage. The passage you quote has
her as the daughter of Roger Pantulf, other websites have her as the
daughter of Hugh Pantulf. I think it more likely she was the descendant of
Wiliam Pantulf of Breedon on the Hill.Secondly her date of death: Many
websites have her dead in 1222 but that must have been a different Iseult
Pantulf because she was still suing Robert son of Walter de Tateshal for
dower in 1265. This longer lifespan gives her more time to fit in all the
husbands she had, unless some of them were married to the other Iseult
Pantulf....
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The following is quoted from rootsweb contributor Clive West:
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The following item from the curia regis rolls confirms your view that the
Isolda who applied for dower in 1265 was the widow of Walter de Tateshal:
Curia Regis Roll 180. Hilary, 51 Henry III, 1267, m. 14 d. Leyc. Isolda,
who was the wife of Walter de Tateshale, demands v. Robert de Tateshale a
third part of a messuage, 200 acres of land, 24 of meadow and two parts of
two vivaries, 2 watermills and 33 virgates of land which are held in
villeinage, £9 4s. 0d. rent, 200 acres of pasture in Bredon, with land in
Holwell, Somerby and Dalby as dower. Robert came and said that she ought
not to have dower, because the said Walter, formerly her husband, neither
on the day of marriage, nor ever after, held the tenements in fee so that
he could dower her, but for term of his life only. Order to summon a jury.
Afterwards she asks leave to withdraw from her suit, and she has it.
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As to her other husbands, Walter died comparatively young, about 39 years
old, so she had plenty of time for the others.
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tallbloke
"Property is nine tenths of the problem" - Dr Winston 'O' Boogie
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Dear Newsgroup ~
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Complete Peerage, 11 :296, footnote b , with
corrections in Vol.12 Pt. 1 : 648, footnote d ,
shows that Iseult Pantolf was married five times:
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Hugh de Munpincon, who may have been dead in 1186.
Walter de Tateshale, died 1199 or 1200.
Walter de Baskerville.
Henry Biset, of Kidderminster, Worcestershire, died 1211.
Amaury de Saint Amand, died 1241.
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Iseult Pantolf's son and heir was her son by her 2nd marriage, Robert
de Tateshale, who was a minor in 1214. For particulars regarding the
Tateshale family, see Complete Peerage, vol. 12, pt. 1 sub Tateshal.
Iseult Pantulf also had two sons by her marriage to Henry Biset,
namely William Biset , and John Biset .
For further particulars on the Biset family and their descendants, see
Banks, The Dormant & Extinct Baronage of England 4 : 12 ; Coll. Top. & Gen., 6 : 154-157; Green, Feet of Fines for
Somerset 4 : 166; VCH Worcester 3
: 158-179 ; Complete Peerage, 10
: 548-549 , 11 : 13 ; VCH Oxford 5
: 160; VCH Oxford 4 : 265-283.
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Henry Biset was evidently married
twice. Iseult was his 2nd surviving wife. By an unknown first wife,
he appears to have been the father of Margaret, wife of Roger la
Zouche, which couple are ancestral to the later Lords Zouche. I
earlier thought that Henry Biset's first wife was Aubrey de Lisours,
daughter of Richard Fitz Eustace, hereditary Constable of Chester.
I've since determined that the Henry Biset who married Aubrey de
Lisours was Henry Biset, of West Allington, Lincolnshire, who was son
of William the Carpenter. For particulars on the other Henry Biset,
see Foulds, Thurgarton Cartulary .
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Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
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Douglas Richardson
18 years ago
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Mr. Ingham appears to have missed my post from last week in which I
already surveyed the Pipe Rolls, Curia Regis Rolls, Patent Rolls,
Bracton's Notebooks, Selden Society publications, and MANY OTHER
sources regarding Iseult Pantolf and her husbands. For interest's
sake, I've recopied the post below. The post includes several
important additions and corrections to the information on these
families found in the Tateshal and Saint Amand accounts in Complete
Peerage.
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I missed checking a few Curia Regis Rolls volumes which were not on
the shelf. I also located but did not post an abstract of an original
charter of Iseult Pantolf in Farnham's Leicestershire Medieval Village
Notes sub Ab Kettleby [FHL Microfilm 804151]. Also, I've since found
a record which confirms that Amaury de Saint Amand, Iseult's fifth and
surviving husband, was in the Holy Land in 1241. Other than that, I
believe my search was pretty complete.
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Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
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Dear Newsgroup ~
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As indicated in an earlier post, Complete Peerage, 11 : 296,
footnote b , with corrections in Vol.12 Pt. 1 :
648, footnote d , states that Iseult Pantolf was married five times:
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Hugh de Munpincun, of Annington , Sussex, who may
have been dead in 1186.
Walter de Tateshale , died 1199 or 1200.
Walter de Baskerville.
Henry Biset, of Kidderminster, Worcestershire, died before 4 April
1211.
Amaury de Saint Amand, died 1241.
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The Saint Amand article cited above in Complete Peerage, however,
reverses the order of the 3rd and 4th husbands; otherwise it stands in
agreement with the Tateshal article.
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It appears that the original Saint Amand article had the correct order
of Iseult Pantolf's husbands after all, and that the revised order of
husbands given in the Tateshal article is in error. Henry Biset was
actually Iseult's 3rd husband and Walter de Baskerville was her 4th
husband, not the other way around.
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Here is the exact train of events:
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In 1199 Roger Pantolf was plaintiff against Walter de Tateshale and
Iseult his wife and Eustache, Iseult's sister, for a knight's fee in
Abkettleby and Holwell, Leicestershire [Reference: Early Yorkshire
Charters, 7 : 27, citing Rot. Cur. Regis, i, 432]. Walter de
Tateshale was Iseult Pantolf's 2nd husband. In an subsequent action
dated Trinity term 1200, it is stated that Iseult's husband, Walter de
Tateshale, had died; Iseult's sister is called Constance, not
Eustachia, in this record [Reference: Curia Regis Rolls, 1 :
196]. Iseult married by Trinity term 1200 Henry Biset, of Kidderminster, Worcestershire and
Rockbourne, Hampshire, son and heir of Manasser Biset. In Trinity
term 1200 Henry and Iseult claimed the third part of lands in
Annington , Sussex in dower, which lands were formerly
owned by Hugh de Munpincun [Iseult's first husband] [Reference: Curia
Regis Rolls, 1 : 214]. In 1201 Roger Pantolf continued the
lawsuit against Iseult alone regarding 1 knight's fee in Abkettleby
and Holwell, Leicestershire; presumably Iseult's sister, Eustache or
Constance, was then deceased [Reference: Curia Regis Rolls, 1 :
214; see also Stenton, Pleas before the King or his Justices : 333]. Iseult's husband, Henry Biset, of
Kidderminster, Worcestershire, died shortly before Michaelmas 1208,
when Iseult is named as his widow [Reference: Great Roll of the Pipe,
Michaelmas 1208 : 116, 170, 197-189].
In Michaelmas 1211 Richard de Neville offered 20 palfreys and found
pledges for payment that the king should ask Iseult, widow of Henry
Biset, to take Richard as her husband; however, before the roll was
closed for the year, John Baalun offered 100 pounds to have the lands
of Richard de Neville until the right heir should come, which record
suggests that Richard de Neville had died before he could marry Iseult
[Reference: Great Roll of the Pipe, Michaelmas 1210 : xxiv, 80, 98]. Iseult married before
Michaelmas 1211 Walter de Baskerville, of Herefordshire [Reference:
Great Roll of the Pipe, Michaelmas 1211
: 196]. In 1208 Walter gave 3 palfreys for having respite of
the fine of 10 pounds owed to the king and 25 pounds owed to the Jews
[Reference: VCH Warwick, 6 : 240]. In Michaelmas 1211 William
Tilli of Northampton and Robert of Leicester owed the king 3 marks
regarding a legal matter involving Walter de Baskerville and Iseult
his wife [Reference: Great Roll of the Pipe, Michaelmas 1211 : 196; see also Great Roll of the Pope,
Michaelmas 1212 : 134]. In the period,
1211-1213, Walter de Baskerville and Iseult Pantolf his wife demised
to Thomas de Neville all their land in Braidon [place uncertain] and
Harlaston, Staffordshire, together with all their right in Tutbury and
Smershill [Middleton and Smerril], Derbyshire [Reference: Landon, ed.,
Cartae Antiquae Rolls 1-10 : 126-127].
In 1212 Iseult Biset is recorded as holding Rockbourne, Hampshire, as
part of the barony of Henry Biset her late husband [Reference: Book of
Fees, 1 : 75]. Walter de Baskerville died shortly before
October 1213 [References: Rot. et Fin., pp. 500, 512-513; Rot. Lit.
Claus, Vol. i, pg. 162]. In 1214 Iseult widow of Walter de
Baskerville paid 100 marks and 1 palfrey to have possession of her
inheritance and her dower [Reference: Barnes, Great Roll of the Pipe,
Michaelmas 1214 : 113; VCH Warwick, 6
: 240. In 1214, and evidently in 1217, as Iseult Biset, she
sued Ralph Tyrrell and Clemence de Munpincun his wife in a plea of
dower regarding half the vill of Annington , Sussex,
which Iseult claimed in right of dower of her 1st marriage to Hugh de
Munpincon [References: Curia Regis Rolls, 7 : 193, 263, 318; VCH
Sussex, 6 Pt. 1 : 195-199; Maitland, ed., Bracton's Note Book, 3
: 316-317]. In 1215 Iseult Biset, former wife of Walter de
Baskerville, is mentioned [Reference: Cal. of Close Rolls, 1204-1224,
pg. 191]. In 1218 Iseult, widow of Walter de Baskerville, was
assigned the land of Cumb in dower [presumably Combe, Gloucestershire
is intended] [References: R.W. Banks, ed., Cartularium prioratus s.
Johannis evangelist=E6 de Brecon
:
161, citing Charter Rolls, pp. 286, 289; J.C. Holt, Magna Carta
: 198, citing Rot. de Ob. et Fin. pg. 500; S.D. Church,
Household Knights of King John : 101]. In Michaelmas 1219
Iseult Biset owed 60 marks and 1 palfrey to have an unspecified vill
in Ireland [Reference: Great Roll of the Pipe, Michaelmas 1219 : 16]. Iseult married before 1220 Amaury de Saint Amand. In 1220 Sarah widow of William
Biset sued Iseult and her husband, Amaury de Saint
Amand, for a third part of the vill of Kidderminster, Worcestershire
and for a third part of lands in Rockbourne, Hampshire; Sarah also
sued John Biset for dower in the vill of
Shamblehurst , Hampshire [Reference: Curia Regis
Rolls, 9 : 76, 129-130, 239, 247, 293, 324]. Sometime in or
after 1220, in an exchange with her step-son, John Biset, Iseult's
husband, Amaury de Saint Amand, held the entire manor of
Kidderminster, Worcestershire, instead of a third part which would
have been his wife's normal dower. In 1223 land in Leicestershire
held by Iseult Pantolf, mother of Robert de Tateshal, which had been
taken into the king's hands for debt, was ordered to be delivered to
the said Robert [Reference: Early Yorkshire Charters, 7 : 27,
footnote 3, citing Exc. e Rot. Fin., i, 105]. In Michaelmas 1224 her
son, Robert de Tateshale, paid 36 pounds and a half mark for his
mother, Iseult, to have her dower; this was presumably a restoration
of the lands previously taken into the king's hands for her debt
[Reference: Great Roll of the Pipe, Mciahelmas 1224 : 199]. Iseult Pantulf was last known to be living
16
January 1228, when her 5th husband, Amaury de Saint Amand, was granted
free warren and a fair at Kidderminster, Worcestershire. Amaury held
this property strictly in right of his wife's dower from her Biset
marriage; thus Iseult must have been living when Amaury had this grant
[Reference: Calendar of Patent Rolls, 1225-1232, pg. 175]. Iseult
appears to have died soon afterwards, however, as her son, Robert de
Tateshale, is called grandson and heir of William Pantulf in a lawsuit
dated 1228-1229 [Reference: VCH Rutland, 2 : 54, citing Extracts
from the Curia Regis Rolls, 1211-1231 , 101].
Iseult was certainly dead before 4 March 1238, when her step-son, John
Biset, was confirmed in the grant of the fair at Kidderminster,
Worcestershire, which fair was formerly granted to Iseult's husband,
Amaury de Saint Amand [Reference: Calendar of Charter Rolls,
1226-1257, pg. 235]. John Biset could only have taken possession of
Kidderminster on the death of his step-mother, Iseult. In 1240 John
Biset, then owner of Kidderminster, came to an agreement with the
Prior and Convent of Worcester as to the bounds of their respective
lands on the heath between Wolverley and Kidderminster [Reference:
Annales Monastici , vol. 4, pg. 431; for John Biset's
ownership of Kidderminster, also see Curia Regis Rolls, 16 :
384].
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Further Corrections:
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John Biset is called "filius Isolde" in the
lawsuit cited above dated 1220. John Biset can only have been
Iseult's step-son. John Biset was of age in or before Michaelmas
1220, when he was granted the lands of his older brother, William
Biset, whose heir he was [Reference: Great Roll of the Pipe,
Michaelmas 1220 : 191]. Thus, John
Biset was born in or before 1199. Iseult Pantolf, on the other hand,
was still married to her 2nd husband, Walter de Tateshale, as late as
1199, and did not marry John Biset's father, Henry Biset, as her 3rd
husband until about Trinity term 1200. The chronology does not permit
Iseult Pantolf to be the mother of any of Henry Biset's known
children, either William or John, or his probable daughter, Margaret
.
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VCH Rutland 2 : 54, footnote 7, states that William Pantulf,
acting for Walter de Baskerville and Isolda his wife, brought an
action in 1202 against the prior of Launde to recover the advowson of
Wardley church, citing Assize R. 613, m. 13. This lawsuit has
clearly been misdated, as Iseult Pantolf did not marry Walter de
Baskerville until after 1211, as stated above.
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Horrox & Ormrod, eds., A Social History of England : 197-198
states Iseult Pantolf "outlived all five of her husbands between 1180
and 1223." At the present time, I have no particulars as to when
Iseult's 1st husband, Hugh de Munpincun, died, only that he "may have
been dead" in 1186. Iseult certainly survived her first four
husbands. However, as shown above, Iseult Pantolf must have died in
1228-1229. Thus, she clearly predeceased her final husband, Amaury de
Saint Amand, who survived until 1241 [Reference: Complete Peerage, 11
: 296].
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Complete Peerage, 11 : 296, footnote b states
that Iseult Pantolf was still living in 1267, when she was prosecuting
her rights of dower against her grandson, Robert de Tateshale.
Complete Peerage, Vol. 12 Pt. 1 : 648, footnote d
correctly states that Iseult Pantolf "can not be the Iseult living in
1265 [recte 1267]." The evidence cited above confirms the correction
provided in the Tateshal account in Complete Peerage.
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Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
Tony Ingham
18 years ago
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Douglas,
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You amaze me. Here I was thinking you didn't have access to any of these
volumes.
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Maybe you scanned them too quickly in your haste to get out your next
self-congratulatory post.
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Mr. Ingham.
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Douglas Richardson wrote:
> Mr. Ingham appears to have missed my post from last week in which I
> already surveyed the Pipe Rolls, Curia Regis Rolls, Patent Rolls,
> Bracton's Notebooks, Selden Society publications, and MANY OTHER
> sources regarding Iseult Pantolf and her husbands. For interest's
> sake, I've recopied the post below. The post includes several
> important additions and corrections to the information on these
> families found in the Tateshal and Saint Amand accounts in Complete
> Peerage.
>
> I missed checking a few Curia Regis Rolls volumes which were not on
> the shelf. I also located but did not post an abstract of an original
> charter of Iseult Pantolf in Farnham's Leicestershire Medieval Village
> Notes sub Ab Kettleby [FHL Microfilm 804151]. Also, I've since found
> a record which confirms that Amaury de Saint Amand, Iseult's fifth and
> surviving husband, was in the Holy Land in 1241. Other than that, I
> believe my search was pretty complete.
>
> Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
>
> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
> COPY OF EARLIER POST
>
> Dear Newsgroup ~
>
> As indicated in an earlier post, Complete Peerage, 11 : 296,
> footnote b , with corrections in Vol.12 Pt. 1 :
> 648, footnote d , states that Iseult Pantolf was married five times:
>
> Hugh de Munpincun, of Annington , Sussex, who may
> have been dead in 1186.
> Walter de Tateshale , died 1199 or 1200.
> Walter de Baskerville.
> Henry Biset, of Kidderminster, Worcestershire, died before 4 April
> 1211.
> Amaury de Saint Amand, died 1241.
>
> The Saint Amand article cited above in Complete Peerage, however,
> reverses the order of the 3rd and 4th husbands; otherwise it stands in
> agreement with the Tateshal article.
>
> It appears that the original Saint Amand article had the correct order
> of Iseult Pantolf's husbands after all, and that the revised order of
> husbands given in the Tateshal article is in error. Henry Biset was
> actually Iseult's 3rd husband and Walter de Baskerville was her 4th
> husband, not the other way around.
>
> Here is the exact train of events:
>
> In 1199 Roger Pantolf was plaintiff against Walter de Tateshale and
> Iseult his wife and Eustache, Iseult's sister, for a knight's fee in
> Abkettleby and Holwell, Leicestershire [Reference: Early Yorkshire
> Charters, 7 : 27, citing Rot. Cur. Regis, i, 432]. Walter de
> Tateshale was Iseult Pantolf's 2nd husband. In an subsequent action
> dated Trinity term 1200, it is stated that Iseult's husband, Walter de
> Tateshale, had died; Iseult's sister is called Constance, not
> Eustachia, in this record [Reference: Curia Regis Rolls, 1 :
> 196]. Iseult married by Trinity term 1200 Henry Biset, of Kidderminster, Worcestershire and
> Rockbourne, Hampshire, son and heir of Manasser Biset. In Trinity
> term 1200 Henry and Iseult claimed the third part of lands in
> Annington , Sussex in dower, which lands were formerly
> owned by Hugh de Munpincun [Iseult's first husband] [Reference: Curia
> Regis Rolls, 1 : 214]. In 1201 Roger Pantolf continued the
> lawsuit against Iseult alone regarding 1 knight's fee in Abkettleby
> and Holwell, Leicestershire; presumably Iseult's sister, Eustache or
> Constance, was then deceased [Reference: Curia Regis Rolls, 1 :
> 214; see also Stenton, Pleas before the King or his Justices : 333]. Iseult's husband, Henry Biset, of
> Kidderminster, Worcestershire, died shortly before Michaelmas 1208,
> when Iseult is named as his widow [Reference: Great Roll of the Pipe,
> Michaelmas 1208 : 116, 170, 197-189].
> In Michaelmas 1211 Richard de Neville offered 20 palfreys and found
> pledges for payment that the king should ask Iseult, widow of Henry
> Biset, to take Richard as her husband; however, before the roll was
> closed for the year, John Baalun offered 100 pounds to have the lands
> of Richard de Neville until the right heir should come, which record
> suggests that Richard de Neville had died before he could marry Iseult
> [Reference: Great Roll of the Pipe, Michaelmas 1210 : xxiv, 80, 98]. Iseult married before
> Michaelmas 1211 Walter de Baskerville, of Herefordshire [Reference:
> Great Roll of the Pipe, Michaelmas 1211
> : 196]. In 1208 Walter gave 3 palfreys for having respite of
> the fine of 10 pounds owed to the king and 25 pounds owed to the Jews
> [Reference: VCH Warwick, 6 : 240]. In Michaelmas 1211 William
> Tilli of Northampton and Robert of Leicester owed the king 3 marks
> regarding a legal matter involving Walter de Baskerville and Iseult
> his wife [Reference: Great Roll of the Pipe, Michaelmas 1211 : 196; see also Great Roll of the Pope,
> Michaelmas 1212 : 134]. In the period,
> 1211-1213, Walter de Baskerville and Iseult Pantolf his wife demised
> to Thomas de Neville all their land in Braidon [place uncertain] and
> Harlaston, Staffordshire, together with all their right in Tutbury and
> Smershill [Middleton and Smerril], Derbyshire [Reference: Landon, ed.,
> Cartae Antiquae Rolls 1-10 : 126-127].
> In 1212 Iseult Biset is recorded as holding Rockbourne, Hampshire, as
> part of the barony of Henry Biset her late husband [Reference: Book of
> Fees, 1 : 75]. Walter de Baskerville died shortly before
> October 1213 [References: Rot. et Fin., pp. 500, 512-513; Rot. Lit.
> Claus, Vol. i, pg. 162]. In 1214 Iseult widow of Walter de
> Baskerville paid 100 marks and 1 palfrey to have possession of her
> inheritance and her dower [Reference: Barnes, Great Roll of the Pipe,
> Michaelmas 1214 : 113; VCH Warwick, 6
> : 240. In 1214, and evidently in 1217, as Iseult Biset, she
> sued Ralph Tyrrell and Clemence de Munpincun his wife in a plea of
> dower regarding half the vill of Annington , Sussex,
> which Iseult claimed in right of dower of her 1st marriage to Hugh de
> Munpincon [References: Curia Regis Rolls, 7 : 193, 263, 318; VCH
> Sussex, 6 Pt. 1 : 195-199; Maitland, ed., Bracton's Note Book, 3
> : 316-317]. In 1215 Iseult Biset, former wife of Walter de
> Baskerville, is mentioned [Reference: Cal. of Close Rolls, 1204-1224,
> pg. 191]. In 1218 Iseult, widow of Walter de Baskerville, was
> assigned the land of Cumb in dower [presumably Combe, Gloucestershire
> is intended] [References: R.W. Banks, ed., Cartularium prioratus s.
> Johannis evangelist=E6 de Brecon
> :
> 161, citing Charter Rolls, pp. 286, 289; J.C. Holt, Magna Carta
> : 198, citing Rot. de Ob. et Fin. pg. 500; S.D. Church,
> Household Knights of King John : 101]. In Michaelmas 1219
> Iseult Biset owed 60 marks and 1 palfrey to have an unspecified vill
> in Ireland [Reference: Great Roll of the Pipe, Michaelmas 1219 : 16]. Iseult married before 1220 Amaury de Saint Amand. In 1220 Sarah widow of William
> Biset sued Iseult and her husband, Amaury de Saint
> Amand, for a third part of the vill of Kidderminster, Worcestershire
> and for a third part of lands in Rockbourne, Hampshire; Sarah also
> sued John Biset for dower in the vill of
> Shamblehurst , Hampshire [Reference: Curia Regis
> Rolls, 9 : 76, 129-130, 239, 247, 293, 324]. Sometime in or
> after 1220, in an exchange with her step-son, John Biset, Iseult's
> husband, Amaury de Saint Amand, held the entire manor of
> Kidderminster, Worcestershire, instead of a third part which would
> have been his wife's normal dower. In 1223 land in Leicestershire
> held by Iseult Pantolf, mother of Robert de Tateshal, which had been
> taken into the king's hands for debt, was ordered to be delivered to
> the said Robert [Reference: Early Yorkshire Charters, 7 : 27,
> footnote 3, citing Exc. e Rot. Fin., i, 105]. In Michaelmas 1224 her
> son, Robert de Tateshale, paid 36 pounds and a half mark for his
> mother, Iseult, to have her dower; this was presumably a restoration
> of the lands previously taken into the king's hands for her debt
> [Reference: Great Roll of the Pipe, Mciahelmas 1224 : 199]. Iseult Pantulf was last known to be living
> 16
> January 1228, when her 5th husband, Amaury de Saint Amand, was granted
> free warren and a fair at Kidderminster, Worcestershire. Amaury held
> this property strictly in right of his wife's dower from her Biset
> marriage; thus Iseult must have been living when Amaury had this grant
> [Reference: Calendar of Patent Rolls, 1225-1232, pg. 175]. Iseult
> appears to have died soon afterwards, however, as her son, Robert de
> Tateshale, is called grandson and heir of William Pantulf in a lawsuit
> dated 1228-1229 [Reference: VCH Rutland, 2 : 54, citing Extracts
> from the Curia Regis Rolls, 1211-1231 , 101].
> Iseult was certainly dead before 4 March 1238, when her step-son, John
> Biset, was confirmed in the grant of the fair at Kidderminster,
> Worcestershire, which fair was formerly granted to Iseult's husband,
> Amaury de Saint Amand [Reference: Calendar of Charter Rolls,
> 1226-1257, pg. 235]. John Biset could only have taken possession of
> Kidderminster on the death of his step-mother, Iseult. In 1240 John
> Biset, then owner of Kidderminster, came to an agreement with the
> Prior and Convent of Worcester as to the bounds of their respective
> lands on the heath between Wolverley and Kidderminster [Reference:
> Annales Monastici , vol. 4, pg. 431; for John Biset's
> ownership of Kidderminster, also see Curia Regis Rolls, 16 :
> 384].
>
> Further Corrections:
>
> John Biset is called "filius Isolde" in the
> lawsuit cited above dated 1220. John Biset can only have been
> Iseult's step-son. John Biset was of age in or before Michaelmas
> 1220, when he was granted the lands of his older brother, William
> Biset, whose heir he was [Reference: Great Roll of the Pipe,
> Michaelmas 1220 : 191]. Thus, John
> Biset was born in or before 1199. Iseult Pantolf, on the other hand,
> was still married to her 2nd husband, Walter de Tateshale, as late as
> 1199, and did not marry John Biset's father, Henry Biset, as her 3rd
> husband until about Trinity term 1200. The chronology does not permit
> Iseult Pantolf to be the mother of any of Henry Biset's known
> children, either William or John, or his probable daughter, Margaret
> .
>
> VCH Rutland 2 : 54, footnote 7, states that William Pantulf,
> acting for Walter de Baskerville and Isolda his wife, brought an
> action in 1202 against the prior of Launde to recover the advowson of
> Wardley church, citing Assize R. 613, m. 13. This lawsuit has
> clearly been misdated, as Iseult Pantolf did not marry Walter de
> Baskerville until after 1211, as stated above.
>
> Horrox & Ormrod, eds., A Social History of England : 197-198
> states Iseult Pantolf "outlived all five of her husbands between 1180
> and 1223." At the present time, I have no particulars as to when
> Iseult's 1st husband, Hugh de Munpincun, died, only that he "may have
> been dead" in 1186. Iseult certainly survived her first four
> husbands. However, as shown above, Iseult Pantolf must have died in
> 1228-1229. Thus, she clearly predeceased her final husband, Amaury de
> Saint Amand, who survived until 1241 [Reference: Complete Peerage, 11
> : 296].
>
> Complete Peerage, 11 : 296, footnote b states
> that Iseult Pantolf was still living in 1267, when she was prosecuting
> her rights of dower against her grandson, Robert de Tateshale.
> Complete Peerage, Vol. 12 Pt. 1 : 648, footnote d
> correctly states that Iseult Pantolf "can not be the Iseult living in
> 1265 [recte 1267]." The evidence cited above confirms the correction
> provided in the Tateshal account in Complete Peerage.
>
> Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
>
>
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Tony Ingham
18 years ago
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Douglas,
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Thanks for your mail. Good to know where you stand.
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Some comments interlaced below.
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Douglas Richardson wrote:
> Mr. Ingham appears to have missed my post from last week in which I
> already surveyed the Pipe Rolls, Curia Regis Rolls, Patent Rolls,
> Bracton's Notebooks, Selden Society publications, and MANY OTHER
> sources regarding Iseult Pantolf and her husbands. For interest's
> sake, I've recopied the post below.
I don't find it interesting that you have recopied, I find it repetitious.
> The post includes several
> important additions and corrections to the information on these
> families found in the Tateshal and Saint Amand accounts in Complete
> Peerage.
>
Important to whom apart from yourself?
> I missed checking a few Curia Regis Rolls volumes which were not on
> the shelf. I also located but did not post an abstract of an original
> charter of Iseult Pantolf in Farnham's Leicestershire Medieval Village
> Notes sub Ab Kettleby [FHL Microfilm 804151]. Also, I've since found
> a record which confirms that Amaury de Saint Amand, Iseult's fifth and
> surviving husband, was in the Holy Land in 1241. Other than that, I
> believe my search was pretty complete.
>
Surely it must have been completely complete! Your innate
sense of modesty is shining through here.
> Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
>
> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
> COPY OF EARLIER POST
>
> Dear Newsgroup ~
>
> As indicated in an earlier post, Complete Peerage, 11 : 296,
> footnote b , with corrections in Vol.12 Pt. 1 :
> 648, footnote d , states that Iseult Pantolf was married five times:
>
> Hugh de Munpincun, of Annington , Sussex, who may
> have been dead in 1186.
> Walter de Tateshale , died 1199 or 1200.
> Walter de Baskerville.
> Henry Biset, of Kidderminster, Worcestershire, died before 4 April
> 1211.
> Amaury de Saint Amand, died 1241.
>
> The Saint Amand article cited above in Complete Peerage, however,
> reverses the order of the 3rd and 4th husbands; otherwise it stands in
> agreement with the Tateshal article.
>
> It appears that the original Saint Amand article had the correct order
> of Iseult Pantolf's husbands after all, and that the revised order of
> husbands given in the Tateshal article is in error. Henry Biset was
> actually Iseult's 3rd husband and Walter de Baskerville was her 4th
> husband, not the other way around.
>
> Here is the exact train of events:
>
I really admire the fact that you were able to piece the EXACT train of
events together. I think you fail to understand that we are not
particularly interested in YOUR version of what transpired, but would
rather that you SHARE the wealth of primary material you seemingly have
at your elbow.
Perhaps then, we lesser beings can work our own way through the muddle
and then hopefully ask for your advice on the more challenging material.
> In 1199 Roger Pantolf was plaintiff against Walter de Tateshale and
> Iseult his wife and Eustache, Iseult's sister, for a knight's fee in
> Abkettleby and Holwell, Leicestershire [Reference: Early Yorkshire
> Charters, 7 : 27, citing Rot. Cur. Regis, i, 432]. Walter de
> Tateshale was Iseult Pantolf's 2nd husband. In an subsequent action
> dated Trinity term 1200, it is stated that Iseult's husband, Walter de
> Tateshale, had died; Iseult's sister is called Constance, not
> Eustachia, in this record [Reference: Curia Regis Rolls, 1 :
> 196]. Iseult married by Trinity term 1200 Henry Biset, of Kidderminster, Worcestershire and
> Rockbourne, Hampshire, son and heir of Manasser Biset. In Trinity
> term 1200 Henry and Iseult claimed the third part of lands in
> Annington , Sussex in dower, which lands were formerly
> owned by Hugh de Munpincun [Iseult's first husband] [Reference: Curia
> Regis Rolls, 1 : 214]. In 1201 Roger Pantolf continued the
> lawsuit against Iseult alone regarding 1 knight's fee in Abkettleby
> and Holwell, Leicestershire; presumably Iseult's sister, Eustache or
> Constance, was then deceased [Reference: Curia Regis Rolls, 1 :
> 214; see also Stenton, Pleas before the King or his Justices : 333]. Iseult's husband, Henry Biset, of
> Kidderminster, Worcestershire, died shortly before Michaelmas 1208,
> when Iseult is named as his widow [Reference: Great Roll of the Pipe,
> Michaelmas 1208 : 116, 170, 197-189].
> In Michaelmas 1211 Richard de Neville offered 20 palfreys and found
> pledges for payment that the king should ask Iseult, widow of Henry
> Biset, to take Richard as her husband; however, before the roll was
> closed for the year, John Baalun offered 100 pounds to have the lands
> of Richard de Neville until the right heir should come, which record
> suggests that Richard de Neville had died before he could marry Iseult
> [Reference: Great Roll of the Pipe, Michaelmas 1210 : xxiv, 80, 98]. Iseult married before
> Michaelmas 1211 Walter de Baskerville, of Herefordshire [Reference:
> Great Roll of the Pipe, Michaelmas 1211
> : 196]. In 1208 Walter gave 3 palfreys for having respite of
> the fine of 10 pounds owed to the king and 25 pounds owed to the Jews
> [Reference: VCH Warwick, 6 : 240]. In Michaelmas 1211 William
> Tilli of Northampton and Robert of Leicester owed the king 3 marks
> regarding a legal matter involving Walter de Baskerville and Iseult
> his wife [Reference: Great Roll of the Pipe, Michaelmas 1211 : 196; see also Great Roll of the Pope,
> Michaelmas 1212 : 134]. In the period,
> 1211-1213, Walter de Baskerville and Iseult Pantolf his wife demised
> to Thomas de Neville all their land in Braidon [place uncertain] and
> Harlaston, Staffordshire, together with all their right in Tutbury and
> Smershill [Middleton and Smerril], Derbyshire [Reference: Landon, ed.,
> Cartae Antiquae Rolls 1-10 : 126-127].
> In 1212 Iseult Biset is recorded as holding Rockbourne, Hampshire, as
> part of the barony of Henry Biset her late husband [Reference: Book of
> Fees, 1 : 75]. Walter de Baskerville died shortly before
> October 1213 [References: Rot. et Fin., pp. 500, 512-513; Rot. Lit.
> Claus, Vol. i, pg. 162]. In 1214 Iseult widow of Walter de
> Baskerville paid 100 marks and 1 palfrey to have possession of her
> inheritance and her dower [Reference: Barnes, Great Roll of the Pipe,
> Michaelmas 1214 : 113; VCH Warwick, 6
> : 240. In 1214, and evidently in 1217, as Iseult Biset, she
> sued Ralph Tyrrell and Clemence de Munpincun his wife in a plea of
> dower regarding half the vill of Annington , Sussex,
> which Iseult claimed in right of dower of her 1st marriage to Hugh de
> Munpincon [References: Curia Regis Rolls, 7 : 193, 263, 318; VCH
> Sussex, 6 Pt. 1 : 195-199; Maitland, ed., Bracton's Note Book, 3
> : 316-317]. In 1215 Iseult Biset, former wife of Walter de
> Baskerville, is mentioned [Reference: Cal. of Close Rolls, 1204-1224,
> pg. 191]. In 1218 Iseult, widow of Walter de Baskerville, was
> assigned the land of Cumb in dower [presumably Combe, Gloucestershire
> is intended] [References: R.W. Banks, ed., Cartularium prioratus s.
> Johannis evangelist=E6 de Brecon
> :
> 161, citing Charter Rolls, pp. 286, 289; J.C. Holt, Magna Carta
> : 198, citing Rot. de Ob. et Fin. pg. 500; S.D. Church,
> Household Knights of King John : 101]. In Michaelmas 1219
> Iseult Biset owed 60 marks and 1 palfrey to have an unspecified vill
> in Ireland [Reference: Great Roll of the Pipe, Michaelmas 1219 : 16]. Iseult married before 1220 Amaury de Saint Amand. In 1220 Sarah widow of William
> Biset sued Iseult and her husband, Amaury de Saint
> Amand, for a third part of the vill of Kidderminster, Worcestershire
> and for a third part of lands in Rockbourne, Hampshire; Sarah also
> sued John Biset for dower in the vill of
> Shamblehurst , Hampshire [Reference: Curia Regis
> Rolls, 9 : 76, 129-130, 239, 247, 293, 324]. Sometime in or
> after 1220, in an exchange with her step-son, John Biset, Iseult's
> husband, Amaury de Saint Amand, held the entire manor of
> Kidderminster, Worcestershire, instead of a third part which would
> have been his wife's normal dower. In 1223 land in Leicestershire
> held by Iseult Pantolf, mother of Robert de Tateshal, which had been
> taken into the king's hands for debt, was ordered to be delivered to
> the said Robert [Reference: Early Yorkshire Charters, 7 : 27,
> footnote 3, citing Exc. e Rot. Fin., i, 105]. In Michaelmas 1224 her
> son, Robert de Tateshale, paid 36 pounds and a half mark for his
> mother, Iseult, to have her dower; this was presumably a restoration
> of the lands previously taken into the king's hands for her debt
> [Reference: Great Roll of the Pipe, Mciahelmas 1224 : 199]. Iseult Pantulf was last known to be living
> 16
> January 1228, when her 5th husband, Amaury de Saint Amand, was granted
> free warren and a fair at Kidderminster, Worcestershire. Amaury held
> this property strictly in right of his wife's dower from her Biset
> marriage; thus Iseult must have been living when Amaury had this grant
> [Reference: Calendar of Patent Rolls, 1225-1232, pg. 175]. Iseult
> appears to have died soon afterwards, however, as her son, Robert de
> Tateshale, is called grandson and heir of William Pantulf in a lawsuit
> dated 1228-1229 [Reference: VCH Rutland, 2 : 54, citing Extracts
> from the Curia Regis Rolls, 1211-1231 , 101].
> Iseult was certainly dead before 4 March 1238, when her step-son, John
> Biset, was confirmed in the grant of the fair at Kidderminster,
> Worcestershire, which fair was formerly granted to Iseult's husband,
> Amaury de Saint Amand [Reference: Calendar of Charter Rolls,
> 1226-1257, pg. 235]. John Biset could only have taken possession of
> Kidderminster on the death of his step-mother, Iseult. In 1240 John
> Biset, then owner of Kidderminster, came to an agreement with the
> Prior and Convent of Worcester as to the bounds of their respective
> lands on the heath between Wolverley and Kidderminster [Reference:
> Annales Monastici , vol. 4, pg. 431; for John Biset's
> ownership of Kidderminster, also see Curia Regis Rolls, 16 :
> 384].
>
> Further Corrections:
>
> John Biset is called "filius Isolde" in the
> lawsuit cited above dated 1220. John Biset can only have been
> Iseult's step-son. John Biset was of age in or before Michaelmas
> 1220, when he was granted the lands of his older brother, William
> Biset, whose heir he was [Reference: Great Roll of the Pipe,
> Michaelmas 1220 : 191]. Thus, John
> Biset was born in or before 1199. Iseult Pantolf, on the other hand,
> was still married to her 2nd husband, Walter de Tateshale, as late as
> 1199, and did not marry John Biset's father, Henry Biset, as her 3rd
> husband until about Trinity term 1200. The chronology does not permit
> Iseult Pantolf to be the mother of any of Henry Biset's known
> children, either William or John, or his probable daughter, Margaret
> .
>
> VCH Rutland 2 : 54, footnote 7, states that William Pantulf,
> acting for Walter de Baskerville and Isolda his wife, brought an
> action in 1202 against the prior of Launde to recover the advowson of
> Wardley church, citing Assize R. 613, m. 13. This lawsuit has
> clearly been misdated, as Iseult Pantolf did not marry Walter de
> Baskerville until after 1211, as stated above.
>
> Horrox & Ormrod, eds., A Social History of England : 197-198
> states Iseult Pantolf "outlived all five of her husbands between 1180
> and 1223." At the present time, I have no particulars as to when
> Iseult's 1st husband, Hugh de Munpincun, died, only that he "may have
> been dead" in 1186. Iseult certainly survived her first four
> husbands. However, as shown above, Iseult Pantolf must have died in
> 1228-1229. Thus, she clearly predeceased her final husband, Amaury de
> Saint Amand, who survived until 1241 [Reference: Complete Peerage, 11
> : 296].
>
> Complete Peerage, 11 : 296, footnote b states
> that Iseult Pantolf was still living in 1267, when she was prosecuting
> her rights of dower against her grandson, Robert de Tateshale.
> Complete Peerage, Vol. 12 Pt. 1 : 648, footnote d
> correctly states that Iseult Pantolf "can not be the Iseult living in
> 1265 [recte 1267]." The evidence cited above confirms the correction
> provided in the Tateshal account in Complete Peerage.
>
> Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
>
>
>
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