John Laing

Personal and Family Information

John was born on 24 MAR 1838, the son of Alexander Laing and Agnes Hotchkiss. The place is not known.

He died on 17 MAR 1910 in Waratah, New South Wales, Australia.

His wife was Mary Lyons, who he married on 20 JUL 1869 in Newcastle, New South Wales, Australia. Their eight known children were Agnes (1869-1959), John (c1871-1952), Eleanor (1872-1959), Alexander (1876-?), Barbara (1876-?), Mary Ellen (1878-?), Elizabeth (1880-?) and William (1882-?).

Pedigree Chart (3 generations)

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Note 1

!Source: http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/ Old Parish Births and Baptisms

LAING JOHN ALEXANDER LAING/AGNES HOTCHKIS FR500 [FR500] 0 01/04/1838 473/ 30 84 Bothkennar View image [6 credits]

!Source: ancestry.com/ Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950

Name: John Laing

Gender: Male

Birth Date: 24 Mar 1838

Baptism Date: 1 Apr 1838

Baptism Place: , Bothkennar, Stirling, Scotland

Father: Alexander Laing

Mother: Agnes Hotchkis

FHL Film Number: 1041972

Reference ID: 2:179W4LK

!Source: Research provided by Jen Willetts, "taken from a CD of Scottish Church Records at an LDS library [that is the only reference I have]". Originially from Parish records.

!Source: "Australian Family Tree Connections", http://www.aftc.com.au/MissingAncestors/0405.html, "LA[I]NG John" - LA[I]NG John [b1837 Falkirk/Carron Sti Sct, son of Alexander & Agnes [HOTCHKISS] LAING] arriv 1860 Tudor m1869 Newcastle NSW Aus LYONS Mary [bc1842 Mitchelltown Cor Irl, dau of John & Leonora [McCARTHY] LYONS] arriv 1859 Alfred. Issue [all b Newcastle/Wallsend NSW]: Agnes [b1869 m1 George BROWN m2 Alexander SMITH John [b1871] m Selina CRAWLEY Eleanor [b1872] m James LONSDALE Alexander [b1876] m Annie CARTON Barbara [b1878] m James ROBSON Mary Ellen [b1880] m1 William CURREY m2 James CURRIE Descendants & Information sought

!Source: Lyn Russo nee Smith. John Laing John Lang aka: Notes for JOHN LAING: John Laing was also known as James Laing and John Lang. John was the son of Alexander Laing [a miner] and Agnes Hodgkiss or Hotkiss [Hotchkis from IGI], from Carronshore in Stirlingshire Scotland. He was born 1st April 1838 in Bothkennar Parish Stirlingshire, . Also on some certificates he stated he came from Falkirk or Kilsyth. But, he stated on the ships manifest and sponsership he came from Carronshire [confirmed by the 1851 cenus] 1841 census Bothkennar: 1:13:58 1851 " " 2:19:78 Birth OPR Bothkennar: 1041972 FR200 John Laing was sponsered to Australia on the 4th November 1859 at the same time as his friend [cousin by marriage] James McLuckie. They were sponsered by Alexander McLuckie brother of James. They were both given references by Mr. William Johnson who was the manager of the Carron Works. So, presumably they were both employed by him whilst in Carronshore. The fare was Four Pounds. [Reel No. 2139]. NSW Archives. See copy of passenger list in file They were neighbours and friends and related by marriage with a mutual aunt, Barbara Laing who married Alexander McLuckie . They arrived on the ship "TUDOR' to Sydney on 17th August 1860. See Laing file for copy of lists: On the ships passenger list, John Lang was known as James Laing. They both stated that they were natives of Carronshore. Presumably the christian names were confused between James [McLuckie] and John when arriving on board.. John parents were still alive and living in Carronshore. His religion was Presbyterian and he could read and write as he stated on the ships passenger list. In 20th July 1869 in Newcastle NSW he married Mary Lyons and one of the witness's was Robert McLuckie. See copy of certificate in file. His name on the certificate is John LANG, and he used that name thereafter, except for the birth of his 1st child Agnes who was registered as Laing.. See copy in file. He lived in Wentworth Street, Plattsburgh [Wallsend] NSW. This is a coalmining area of the NSW Hunter area. On his Death Certificate No. 1910/3642 on the 17th March 1910 at Waratah NSW, his occupation was Coal Miner [he was 73] He is buried in the Presbyterian Cemetery at Wallsend. Minister John Richardson. Witness's Joseph Firth and M. Holloway. Informant. E. Arthur, Matron, Benevolent Asylum Waratah. Children of marriage to Mary were: Agnes b. 1869, John b. 1871, Lenore b. 1873, Alexander b. 1876, Barbara b. 1878, Mary Ellen b. 1880. Elizabeth b. 1883, and William b. 1875. In the 1851 census of Bothkennar in Stirling the listing below was found. SURNAME: FIRST NAME: AGE: PLACE COUNTY BIRTH SEX LAING Agnes 46 Carronshore STI F LAING Alexander 46 Carronshore STI M LAING Cornelius 18 Carronhsore STI M LAING David 9 Carronshore STI M LAING Barbara 4 Carronshore STI F LAING John 13 Carronshore STI M ****** * This is John that came to Australia in 1860. Next door was the family of Laing also: David aged 68, George aged 39, Mary aged 37, and David aged 16. This could well be the father and siblings of Alexander Laing. On either side of the Laing families were several families of McLuckie. One of which was Robert, James and Alexander McLuckie. In the 1901 Federal Directory of Newcastle NSW. there is a John Lang, Living in Plattsburgh who was a miner. Also a A.Lang living in Wentworth street, also a miner. [?is this him] In the 1903 Electoral Roll for Newcastle NSW Fiche 56: [? what relation or relevance] is the Lang family below: Pattsburgh: Lang Alexander Wentworth Street, Miner Lang Elizabeth " Domestic Lang Mary " Domestic Lang William " Miner Lang John Co-operative Camp Coalminer Lang John Jnr. Harriett Street Coalminer Lang Selina Macquarie St., Domestic ************************************** Information below taken from the web site of Jenny Willetts, descendant of James McLuckie. James McLuckie sailed from Scotland with his good friend John Lang, he left behind his parents Catherine Graham and Thomas McLuckie and three older sisters - Helen, Margaret and Jean. They joined James' brothers Alexander and Robert McLuckie who had arrived before them. James arrived in Sydney on the Tudor on 17th August 1860 nine months before his oldest brother Alexander married Ann Sharp, a Newcastle lass recently arrived from Clakmannonshire with her sister Margaret. Margaret later married Alexanders brother Robert. They all worked at coalmines in the Newcastle area. They had all been coalminers in Scotland and James and John Lang had worked in the Carron Works near Falkirk Sct. Alexander lived in Merewether and raised three daughters, Ann, Catherine and Isabella and lived untill aged 80. Robert settled in Hamilton with his wife Margaret and their childen Catherine, Ellen, Thomas, Margaret and Isabella before dying at the age of 42 years after being run over by an Albert car. James never married and died in 1878 aged 39 years from cholera. John Lang lived to 73 years with his wife Mary Lyons they produced 8 children ************************************* According to the NSW BDM. John and Mary Laing/Lang produced the following children: [ Possibly one child missing] 15511/1869 Agnes Laing - Newcastle 14098/1871 John Lang - Newcastle 14640/1872 Eleanor Laing - Newcastle 15566/1874 Andrew Lang - Newcastle????? Alexander 1875- cannot find him on index's but is mentioned on Johns death certificate. 17179/1876 Barbara Lang - Wallsend 20796/1880 Betsy Laing - Wallsend 25925/1882 William Lang - Wallsend. Elizabeth born 1883 More About JOHN LAING: Cause of Death: Chronic Interstitial Nephritis. Uraemia Fact 1: Bet. 1837 - 1843, Born in Carronshore Stirlingshire Scotland Fact 2: August 17, 1860, Arrived Sydney on board "Tudor" Fact 3: July 20, 1869, Married at Newcastle 1869/3022 Fact 4: March 17, 1910, Died at Waratah Benevolent Home Newcastle Fact 5: March 18, 1910, Buried at Presbyterian Cemetery Wallsend Medical Information: Died Benevolent Asylum. Waratah NSWRef: No. 1910/3642