Elizabeth de Seagrave

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Personal and Family Information

Elizabeth was born about 1307, the daughter of unknown parents. The place is not known.

She died in 1335. The place is not known.

Her husband was Roger de Northwood, who she married in 1331. The place has not been found. They had no known children.

Events

EventDateDetailsSourceMultimediaNotes
BirthABT 1307
Death1335

Notes

Note 1

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Sir Stephen de Northwode = ?

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Sir Roger de Northwode = Bona Fitzberwrd alias Bonafilia Je Wautham,

41 Hen. ID., 1257. heir to her brother, 50. Hen. Ill., 1265.

Ob. Nov. 9, 1285. See note 4, Appendix, p. 82.

13 Edw.I.

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Sir John de Northwode = Joan de Badlesmere.

Ob. June 2, 1819, Ob. May 26, 1819,

12 Edw. II. 12 Edw. II.

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Sir John de Northwode = Agnes, daughter of Sir

Ob. v. p. William de Grandison,

by Sibilla, his wife.

Ob. Dec. 4, 1349.

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Sir Roger de Northwode = Juliana, daughter of = Elizabeth, = Margery, = Joan, = Agnes,

[1st] Married under 15 1 Sir Geoffrey de Say, 2 widow of 3 relict of Sir 4 relict of 5 relict of Sir John

Aged 12 in the year 1319 1319 by Idonia, his wife. 1331 Richard 1340 Nicholas de 1342 Thomas de 1356 de Cobbam. Her

ob. Nov. 6, 1361 Ob. Feb 20, 3 Edw. Foliot, and Halgton. Faversham. third husband was

[aged X at event in year Y] III. 1328-9. daughter Ob. 1340. Ob. May, Christopher de

of John de s.p. 1356, 30 Shukkburgh.

Seagrave. Edw. III.

Ob. 1335

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,…,

And a

little before the feast of St. Peter ad Vincula, in the fifth

year of the said Lord the King Edward III., late King of

England, he contracted a second marriage, viz. with Eli- <<<<

zabeth, late wife of Richard Ffoliot, Esq., and daughter of

Sir John de Segrave, late lord of Folkstane ;^16 and to ob-

tain that marriage he gave the foresaid manors of Beaues-

feld and Horton, near Canterbury, in the county of Kent,

and a rent of nine marks in the parish of St. Olave's, in

Southwerk, in the county of Surrey, by deed sealed with

his seal of arms, dated at Ffolkstane, on Tuesday on the

monow of St. John the Baptist, in the fifth year of the

reign of the Lord the King Edward Ill, to Durandus

de Wydmerpole and John de Bykenore, son and heir of

Sir John de Bykenore, Knight, and their heirs for ever.

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16 Sir John de Segrave = ?

Lord of Jfolkstone. |

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Richard de Foliot = Elizabeth de Segrave = Sir Roger de Northwode.

Esquire. 1331.

dead 1881.

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Moreover, to the said Durandus and his heirs a rent of

£15. 6s. 8d., with its pertinencies, in the city of London,

by his deed, dated at London, on Thursday next before

the feast of the translation of St. Thomas the Martyr,

in the fifth year of the reign of the said Lord the King

Edward III., in like manner sealed with his seal of arms,

and enrolled in the Husting Court of London of pleas

of land, held on Monday in the feast of St. Mary Mag-

dalene, in the said fifth year,-that they, when in full

seizin, should grant the said manors and rents, with their

pertinencies, to the foresaid Roger the father, and Eli- <<<<

zabeth, and the heirs of their bodies legally issuing ; and,

if they should die without heirs of their body issuing,

the manors and rents aforesaid should remain for ever

to the right heirs of the said Sir Roger for ever. Which

Durandus, and John son of John de Bykenore, by fine

levied in the said Court of the said Lord the King

Edward III., viz. in the quindain of Michaelmas, in his

said fifth year, granted and rendered the manors and

rents aforesaid in the counties of Kent and Surrey to

the said Sir Roger and Elizabeth, and the heirs of their

bodies issuing; so that on failure of issue begotten be

tween them, those manors and rents should remain to

the right heirs of the said Sir Roger for ever. And

afterwards, viz. on the 11th day of December, in the

ninth year of the said Lord the King Edward III., and

the year of our Lord 1335, the said Elizabeth died <<<<

without issue of her body, and is buried at Shepeye,

nearly at the head of Sir Roger de Northwode, the re-

storer aforesaid. But, it is sculptured on the stone laid

over the said Elizabeth :-

Icy gist Elizabeth $egrave ffle monsr Johan Segrave,

labysz femme Richar Ffoliot, et a Roger de Norwode le

secunbz, q transpassa le xi for be Decembr Ian be grace

mill ccxxxbte.

VOL. II. C

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" So that, in the superscription of the said stone, one

hundred years are omitted from the date of our Lord.

But consideration being had to the date of the deeds

executed on effecting the said maniage, and to the date

of the foresaid fine, by which the said manors of Horton

and Beauesfeld were granted to the said Sir Roger and

Elizabeth, and to the superscription of the said stone,

by which it is supposed that the said Elizabeth was the

daughter of Sir John de Segrave and the wife of Richard

Ffoliot, who were surviving in the time of King Edward,

son of King Henry, as appears among the Records of

the Exchequer, in a book of fees of the county of Kent;

and it being supposed afterwards, that she was the

second wife of the said Sir Roger ; and chiefly by the

information of certain who saw her, and knew, that she

died at Canterbury, under the care of a certain physi-

cian who pledged himself to her to cure her of the in

firmity of which she died; and by a certain acquittance

of Brother John Ryngemere, Prior of the order of bro-

thers Preachers of Canterbury, by which he acknow-

ledged that he had received of Sir Roger de Northwode

twelve marks, which the said Sir Roger had ordained

for the soul of Elizabeth, formerly his wife, the date of

which is Thursday next after the feast of the Annunci-

ation of the blessed Mary, in the year of our Lord 1342;

and consideration also being had, that before this there

had only been one Sir Roger, who was the son of Sir

Stephen de Northwode, whose wife was named Bona,

and who died in the fifteenth year of King Edward, son

of King Henry, as is aforesaid, and who lived within

fifty years before the ninth year of the reign of King

Edward III., in which year, as is aforesaid, the said Eli- <<<<

zabeth died,-it clearly appears that the omission of the

foresaid hundred years in the sculpture of the said stone

was done by the negligence of the workmen. So that

if the said hundred years be added to the sculptme of

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the said stone, they-will show the true year of 'the death.

of the said Elizabeth. And that the said Elizabeth died <<<<

without issue of her body truly appears, inasmuch as

after the death of Maria, daughter of Sir John de Se

grave, late lord of Folkestane, brother of . the foresaid

Elizabeth, by virtue of the writ of our Lord the King of

diem clausit extremum, directed to William de Langele,

late Escheator of Kent, it was found by Inquisition taken

before the said late Escheator, at Lymynge, 16th day of

December, in the twenty-third year of the l'eign of Ed-

ward III., that the said Maria died seized of the manor

of Folkstane, with its pertinencies, in her demesne as of

fee ; and that she died without heir of her body, by

which the right to the said manor reverted to Mr. Nicho-

las de Sandwych, as kinsman and heir of the said Maria

de Segrave,^17 viz. son of Nicholas, brother of John de

Sandwich, father of Juliana, mother of John de Segrave

and Elizabeth, father of foresaid Maria ; who after a

while sold the said manor to Sir William de Clynton,

Earl of Huntingdon; so that, if the said Elizabeth, aunt <<<<

of the said Maria, had had issue, the manor of Polkstane,

without any hesitation, would have fallen to the said

issue.

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her a suitable match, without disparagement or inequality

which if the infants refused, they forfeited the value of the

marriage ; that is, so much as a jury would assess, or any one

would bona flde give for such an alliance ; and, if the infants

:married without the King's consent, they forfeited double the

.value. And the same rights which the King had i!l this respect

over his tenants in capite, belonged also to all feudal lords over

their tenants who held by knight-service.

The wardship and marriage of the heir were fruitful sources

of revenue to the Lord. They were saleable as ordinary chat

tels, and were so treated.

[15.] The "Inquisitio post mortem" of this Agnes was

taken 1405-6, 6 Hen. IV., and Sir Roger died in 1361, 35

Ed. Ill. ; our Roll therefore must have been written between

1361 and 1406.

[17.] On referring to this Inquisition we find the Jury re-

turning as follows :-

" Item dicunt quod dicta Maria obiit die Martis proximo post

festum Sancti Bartholomei anno predicto. Item dicunt quod Nicho

laus de Sandwico est consanguineus et -propinquior .heres ejusdem

Marie, de manerio predicto, eo quod quedam .Agnes Daverenges, que

de manerio predicto fuit seisita in dominico suo ut de feodo et jure,

nupsit se Johanni de Sandwico, et de eisdem Johanne et .Agnete

exierunt Johannes et Nicholaus. De eadem Agnete descendit ma-

nerium predictum eidem Johanni, ut filio et heredi. De eodem

Johanne filio Agnetis descendebat manerium predictum cuiclam

Juliane ut filie et heredi ipsius Johannis filii Agnetis, que quidem

Juliana nupsit se Johanni de Segrave. De eadem Juliana descendit

manerium.predictum cuidam Johanni de Segrave, ut filio et heredi

predicte Juliane. De eodem Johanne de Seagrave, filio Juliane,

descendit manerium predictu:m Marie filie et heredi ejusdem Johannis

filii Juliane, que quidem Maria obiit sine herede de corpore suo

e:x:eunte, per quod revertebatm• jus manerii predicto Nicholao de

Sandwico, filio predicte Agnetis, avunculo predicte Juliane avee pre-

dicte Marie. De eodem Nicholao descendit jus predicti manerii isti

Nicholao de Sandwico, ut filiq et heredi ejusdem Nicholai et consan-

guineo et heredi predicte Marie, filio Nicholai, filii Agnetis, matris

Johannis, patris Juliane, matris Johannis de Segrave, patris Marie.

Dicunt eciam quod predicta Maria nullas habuit terraa seu tene-

menta in comitatu predicto de hereditate Johannis de Segrave avi

sui, et quod predictus Nicholaus est etntis qu.adraginta annorum et

amplius.” [See lnq. p. m., 23 Ed. Ill., pt. 2, No. 44.]

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From this Inquisition and our Text, we are furnished with

the following pedigree.:-

Sir John de Sandwich = Agues Daverenches,

| Domina de manerio

| de Folkstone.

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Sir John de Sandwich = ? Nicholas de Sandwich = ?

Sir John de = Juliana de Sandwich. Nicholas de Sandwich,

Segrave. | heir to Maria de Segrave.

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Sir John de = ? Sir Roger de = Elizabeth de Segrave = Richard Foliot, <<<<

Segrave. l Northwode. 2 1 Esq.

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Maria. de Segrave,

sole heir, ob. s. p.

25th August, 1349.

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{19.] Essex. In the more modern transcript of this roll this

is written " Sussex."

[20.] Sir Ralph St. Leger was Sheriff of Kent, 10 Ric. II.

[21.] i.e. in the same ye1:J,r of our Lord, viz. 134..0. She was

married, it is stated, in the thirteenth year, therefore the mar

riage must have taken place in 1840, before the 25th of January,

to bring it into 18 Ed. III., and the same year of our Lord, after

the 25th of January, would be 14 Ed. ill.

[23.] "The late King Edward III.;" therefore this Roll

must have been written after 1377,. the last year of that

monarch.

[25.] This Sir Roger cle Northwode had his summons to

Parliament 3rd April, 1360; 34 Ed. III. [Rot. Olaus.].

[26.] By the custom of Gavelkind, the wife is endowed for

life with half the land of which her husband died seised, if it

be not otherwise settled by deed or will ; but her estate therein

ceases if she contract a second marriage. This clause, there

fore, was to secure the estate for life to Agnes, without any

forfeiture on a second marriage.

[27.] He had summonses to Parliament, 37, 38, 39, 42, 43, 44,

46, 47, and 49 Ed. III. [see Rot. Claus.].

[28.] This reference almost determines that Thomas Brumps-

ton was the writer of our Roll.

[29.] i.e. "pedigree." This is doubtless the Roll which we

have printed.

40 GENE.ALOGIOA.L NOTICES

[30.] This would appear as if the questioner of the title to the

estate was Selinger; but among our other muniments there is

strong indication that James, the brother of the last Sir Roger,

was the chief promoter of the dispute.