Charles was born about 0925 in Courcy, Ardennes, Champagne, France, the son of Charles de Courcy, de Carolus and Eadgifu Gewissa.
His wife is not known. They were married, but the date and place have not been found. Their only known child was Wigelius (c0950-?).
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Note 1
!StyleName: de Courcy, Charles Count of Vienne, de Carolus, De France [~925 - ]
!Source: Some Descendants of Charles III 'the Simple' 'de Carolus' DE FRANCE, King of France [893-922]
http://washington.ancestryregister.com/FRANCE100006.htm#i4537
First Generation
1. Charles III 'the Simple' 'de Carolus' DE FRANCE King of France [893- [893-922],26 2067 son of Louis II 'the Stammerer' 'de Carolus' DE FRANCE King of France [877-879] and Adelaide DE PARIS, was born 17 Sep 0879 in France,26 2067 died 7 Oct 0929 in Murdered in Tower of Peronne, Somme, France,26 2067 and was buried in St. Fursi, Peronne, Somme, France. Charles married Frederuna Of HAMALANT Abt Apr 0907. Frederuna was born Cir 0886 in Hamaland, Netherlands and died 10 Feb 0916-0017 in Paris, Seine, Ile-de-France, France.
The Child from this marriage was:
2. i. Ermentrude 'de Carolus' DE FRANCE Princess of France was born Cir 0908 in France.
Charles next married Eadgifu 'Gewissa' Of WESSEX Princess of England ,416 2045 daughter of Edward 'the Elder' 'Gewissa' Of WESSEX King of England [899-924] and Aelflaed 'Gewissa' Of WESSEX, Cir 0917.2068 Eadgifu was born Abt 0904 in Wessex , England and died Cir 0951.2068
Children from this marriage were:
3. i. Louis IV 'Transmarinus' 'de Carolus' DE FRANCE King of France [936-954] 26 416 was born 10 Sep 0921 in Laon, Aisne, Picardy, France,26 416 died 10 Sep 0954 in Fell from horse in Reims, Champagne, France,26 416 and was buried in St. Remy Abbey, Reims, Champagne, France.26
4. ii. Charles 'de Courcy' 'de Carolus' DE FRANCE was born Abt 0925 in Courcy, Ardennes, Champagne, France and died of Courcy, Ardennes, Champagne, France.
Second Generation
3. Louis IV 'Transmarinus' 'de Carolus' DE FRANCE King of France [936-954] 26 416 was born 10 Sep 0921 in Laon, Aisne, Picardy, France,26 416 died 10 Sep 0954 in Fell from horse in Reims, Champagne, France,26 416 and was buried in St. Remy Abbey, Reims, Champagne, France.26 Louis married Gerberga Von SACHSEN ,2 68 1692 2070 daughter of Henry I 'the Fowler' Von SACHSEN Holy Roman Emperor [919-936] and Mathilda Von RINGLEHEIM, Abt 0939.2069 2070 Gerberga was born Abt 0913 in Nordhausen, Saxony, Prussia 2 68 2069 and died 5 May 0984 in Reims, Marne, Champagne, France.2 68 2071
Children from this marriage were:
5. i. Lothair 'de Carolus' DE FRANCE King of France [954-986] 26 68 2072 2073 was born Abt 0941 in Laon, Aisne, Picardy, France 26 68 2072 and died 2 Mar 0986.26 68 2072
6. ii. Matilda 'Maud' 'de Carolus' DE FRANCE Princess of France 2074 2075 was born Cir 0943 in Laon, Aisne, Picardy, France 2074 and died 26 Nov 0991.2074
7. iii. Charles 'de Lorraine' 'de Carolus' DE FRANCE Duke of Lower Loraine 2045 2076 was born Cir 0960 in Laon, Aisne, Picardy, France 2077 and died 21 May 0994 in Kerker, Orleans, France.2077
4. Charles 'de Courcy' 'de Carolus' DE FRANCE was born Abt 0925 in Courcy, Ardennes, Champagne, France and died of Courcy, Ardennes, Champagne, France. Another name for Charles was Charles DE COURCY. Charles married Wife of Charles DE UNKNOWN Cir 0945. Wife was born Cir 0925 and died of Courcy, Ardennes, Champagne, France.
The Child from this marriage was:
8. i. Wigelius 'de Courcy' 'de Carolus' DE FRANCE was born Cir 0950 in Courcy, Ardennes, Champagne, France and died of Courcy, Ardennes, Champagne, France.
Third Generation
8. Wigelius 'de Courcy' 'de Carolus' DE FRANCE was born Cir 0950 in Courcy, Ardennes, Champagne, France and died of Courcy, Ardennes, Champagne, France. Another name for Wigelius was Wigelius DE COURCY. Wigelius married Wife of Wigelius DE UNKNOWN Cir 0970. Wife was born Cir 0950 and died of Courcy, Ardennes, Champagne, France.
The Child from this marriage was:
16. i. Baldric 'the Teuton' 'de Courcy' 'de Carolus' DE FRANCE Seigneur de Courcy 2031 was born Cir 0970 in Courcy, Ardennes, Champagne, France and died of Courcy, Ardennes, Champagne, France.
!Note: Below appears to be an alternative parentage:
!Source: Charles Constantine of Vienne https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Constantine_of_Vienne
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Charles-Constantine was a Count of Vienne. His father, Louis the Blind, was King of Provence and Holy Roman Emperor.
Life
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When Charles' father Louis died in 929, Hugh of Arles, who was already king of Italy, took over Provence and gave it, in 933, to King Rudolf II of Burgundy.[1] Charles-Constantine, for whatever reason, did not inherit the imperial throne or Provence.[2] This has led many to believe he was, in fact, illegitimate.[3] He was awarded the county of the Viennois in 931, by Rudolph of France.[4]
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He was married to Thiberge de Troyes.[4] They had two sons and a daughter:
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Richard[4]
Hubert[4]
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Constance of Vienne, married to Boson II count of Arles.
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Name and ancestry
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This count appears simply as "Carolus" in his own charters.[5] Flodoard, writing his annals during the count's lifetime, called him Karolo Constantino Ludovici orbi filii , and this added byname also appears in the writings of 10th-century historian Richerus, who used Flodoard as a source.[5][6] The implications of this byname, Constantine, have been subject to debate. Poole considered it a toponymic name of Flodoard's devising, reference to Arles ,[5] but Previté-Orton sees in it a reference to his parentage.[7] A surviving letter by Patriarch Nicholas I Mystikos testifies that Emperor Leo VI the Wise of Byzantium, father of Constantine VII, had betrothed his daughter to a Frank prince, a cousin of Bertha , to whom came later a great misfortune. That unfortunate prince could only be Louis III, whose mother Ermengard of Italy was a first cousin of Bertha, and who was blinded on 21 July 905, while the prospective bride would have been Emperor Leo's only surviving daughter at that time, Anna of Constantinople, born to his second wife Zoe Zaoutzaina.[7] Charles Constantine would thus have been given names reflecting his paternal and maternal imperial heritage.[8] However, it is still questioned whether the planned marriage ever took place,[9] and there are chronological difficulties in making Anna the mother of Charles Constantine.[7] Richerus suggested that the ancestry of Charles Constantine was tainted by illegitimacy back to five generations,[7] although the meaning of this is disputed. Most of the scholars accept that Charles Constantine was Anna's son.[10][11][12]
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Charles Constantine
Count of Vienne
Died 962
Noble family Bivinids
Spouse Thiberge de Troyes
Issue Richard
Hubert
Constance
Father Louis III the Blind
Mother Anna of Constantinople