Ralph de Baskerville

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Personal and Family Information

Ralph was born about 1154, the son of Ralph de Baskerville and FitzDrogo. The place is not known.

He died about 1190. The place is not known.

His wife was Sybil De Braose, who he married in ABT 1180. The place has not been found. Their six known children were Thomas (c1180-1241), Ysolda [or Isabella] (c1181->1266), Walter (c1182-<1213), Roger (c1183-?), Robert (c1185-?) and Nesta (c1187-<1219).

Pedigree Chart (3 generations)


 

Ralph de Baskerville
(c1154-c1190)

 

Ralph de Baskerville
(c1100-1149)

 

Robert de Baskerville
(c1086-?)

 

Geoffrey Martel de Baskerville
(c1053-c1115)

 
   
 
 
   
 
  
 
 
   
 
 
  

FitzDrogo
(c1110-?)

 

Drogo [Drew] FitzPons
(c1065-c1127)

 

Pons FitzPons
(c1040-?)

 
   
 
 
   
 
  
 
 
   
 
 

Events

EventDateDetailsSourceMultimediaNotes
BirthABT 1154
DeathABT 1190

Notes

Note 1

!StyleName: de Baskerville, Sir Ralph de Eardisley by marriage to Sibyl [~1154 - ~1190]

!Note: Birthdate from mother’s mrriage.

!Source: Eyton Vol 05 https://www.melocki.org.uk/eyton/Vol05.html

LAWTON.

This place has no mention in Domesday, but can hardly be considered

a member of Little Sutton, inasmuch as the latter maintained its Domesday hidage independently. However I prefer to speak of Lawton here, because it now forms one township with Little Sutton, and was associated therewith by several circumstances of ancient tenure. Like Little Sutton, Lawton had in the twelfth century become a Serjeantry, and was held in capite by those same Baskervilles whom I have mentioned under Aldenham, Pickthorn, Northwood, Newton, and Little Sutton. I return for a moment to the question of the origin of these Baskervilles whose estates, be it remembered, were not only in Shropshire, but also at Bradwardine, in Herefordshire, and at Helidon, in Northamptonshire. Connected as they undoubtedly were with the Baskervilles of Eardisley, that connection has only served to confuse all accounts of the two races after they became distinct. One statement would lead us to infer that a Ralph de Baskervill, of the elder line, acquired Eardisley and Willersley by marriage with Sibil, daughter of Adam de la Port; [1] but surely Eardisley belonged to the Fief of Lacy, rather than to that of La Port. However in this statement we have perhaps an element of a much more probable theory, viz. that a Cadet of the Baskervilles of Eardisley, by some such marriage, and early in the twelfth century, acquired Bradwardine,- a fee which, as we have already seen, [2] was held in 1165 by Ralph de Baskervill under Adam de la Port. There are other circumstances which I have not yet alluded to, but which are illustrative not only of this Ralph de Baskervill's Tenures in Herefordshire and Shropshire, but of his personal history and tragical death. Like his cotemporary, Robert de Baskerville of Eardisley, Ralph de Baskervill was a Benefactor to the Priory of Brecknock. "He gave", says my authority, "to the Monks of Brecknock lands at Bredwardine". His Charter was attested by William de Braose and by William de Braose the younger. [3] A renewal of this Charter seems to have had the attestations of William de Braose Senior, Maud de St. Valeri his wife, and Ralph Abbot of Wigmore [3] . Ralph de Baskervill by another Charter, gave Trosdref Mill, on the river Llyfni, to Brecknock, [3] and this grant, being made in the presence of Peter Bishop of St. David's, must have passed

Baskervill who gave to the Knights Templars of Lidley his Mill of Lawton. [4] If so, the grant will have been made between 1185 and 1192; for in the former year a Record of all the Templars' possessions in Shropshire was not inclusive of this item.

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The wife of Ralph de Baskervill has been before alluded to as having remarried to Roger fitz William, suspected to have been her first husband's Murderer. This Lady was undoubtedly the same with Nesta ap Griffith, who after Ralph de Baskervill's death is said to have contested his grant of Trosdref Mill to the Monks of Brecknock. Ultimately she withdrew this opposition and became herself a Benefactress of the Priory. Her Quit-claim seems to show that she was surviving later than the year 1203. [5]

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Note that Nesta, the daughter of Gruffydd ap Llywelyn has no known relatioship to the de Baskervilles. That Nesta actually mariied Bernard de Neufmarché and by 1125 had a grown son who killed his father, making her already in her 40’s and it possible, but unlikely for her to be involved with Robert de Baskerville born about 1086, but definitely impossibel for her to be the wife of Sir Ralph [1150 - 1190]. The Nesta ap Gruffydd refered to was the daughter of The Lord Rhys ap Gruffydd Prince of South Wales [1132 - 1197]. She was refered to because of her daughter Agnes, who married Sir Robert de Baskerville [~1173 - ] at a much later date. i’d love to see any real proof otherwise.

!Source: Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knight%27s_fee#:~:text=In%20feudal%20Anglo%2DNorman%20England%20and%20Ireland%2C%20a,to%20fight%20for%20his%20overlord%20in%20battle.

In feudal Anglo-Norman England and Ireland, a knight's fee was a unit measure of land deemed sufficient to support a knight. It would not only provide sustenance for himself, his family, and servants, but also the means to furnish himself and his retinue with horses and armour to fight for his overlord in battle. It was effectively the size of a fief sufficient to support one knight in the ongoing performance of his feudal duties .

Note: Doesn’t means he is a knight, but that he supports one.

!Source: THE BATTLE ABBEY ROLL. - WITH SOME ACCOUNT OF THE NORMAN LINEAGES. - BY THE DUCHESS OF CLEVELAND. - IN THREE VOLUMES.—VOL. I - LONDON: JOHN MURRAY, ALBEMARLE STREET. 1889. - LONDON: PRINTED BY WILLIAM CLOWES AND SONS, LIMITED, STAMFORD STREET AND CHARING CROSS. -

This electronic edition was prepared by Michael A. Linton, 2007 www.1066.co.nz

http://www.1066.co.nz/Mosaic%20DVD/library/Battle%20Roll/battle_abbey_roll1/battle_abbey_roll1.html

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Baskervile :

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>>> Ralph de Baskerville <<<

, who in 1165 held a knight's fee of Adam de Port in Herefordshire—probably at Bradwardine—is considered by Eyton to have been the progenitor of the Shropshire Baskervilles. About 1180, he was Lord of Pickthorn in that county, where his descendants continued for nine generations, and also held Lawton and other manors. He died in 1190, by the hand of one of his own vassals, leaving his son Thomas a minor. But no sooner was the young heir of age, than he challenged Roger Fitz William in the King's Court at Westminster, "for that wickedly, and in the King's peace, and in felony, and in murder, he slew Ralph de Baskerville his father in his house; and this the said Thomas saw, as he said, being a boy under age, and this he offers to prove against Roger with his body." This was in Easter Term, 1200; but it was only in the following year that the Court decided to allow the duel. "No record remains of this duel. The Appellant, however, survived it."—Eyton's Salop.

!Source: THE BATTLE ABBEY ROLL. - WITH SOME ACCOUNT OF THE NORMAN LINEAGES. - BY THE DUCHESS OF CLEVELAND. - IN THREE VOLUMES.—VOL. I - LONDON: JOHN MURRAY, ALBEMARLE STREET. 1889. - LONDON: PRINTED BY WILLIAM CLOWES AND SONS, LIMITED, STAMFORD STREET AND CHARING CROSS. -

This electronic edition was prepared by Michael A. Linton, 2007 www.1066.co.nz

http://www.1066.co.nz/Mosaic%20DVD/library/Battle%20Roll/battle_abbey_roll1/battle_abbey_roll1.html

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Baskeruile :

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Their tenure of Eardisley Castle "commenced at least as early as the thirteenth century. In 1251 Humphrey de Bohun and Aleanore his wife, by a fine granted the manor of 'Irdesle' to Walter de Baskerville , but there is good reason to believe that his ancestors had been settled in that place—certainly in the county—at a much earlier date. They claim, indeed, to have acquired possession of the manor of Eardisley by the marriage of

>>> Sir Ralph Baskerville <<< with

>>> Sibyl <<<, heiress of

>>> Adam de Port<<< and of his [Adam’s] wife, who was a daughter of

>>> De Braose <<<, and a grand-daughter of

>>> Milo, Earl of Hereford <<<. With greater certainty we may state that

>>> Ralph de Baskerville <<< held lands under

>>> Adam de Port <<< de veteri feoffamento, i.e. by inheritance from the reign of Henry I. , and that on the murder of

>>> Ralph Baskerville <<< in Northamptonshire about the year 1194, his son

>>> Thomas <<< succeeded him at Pickthorn, the Shropshire estate [Eyton's Shropshire], and another son,

>>> Roger <<<, at Eardisley in Herefordshire.—

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>>>”Walter de Baskerville <<<, grandson of this

>>> Roger <<<, had licence from the Bishop of Hereford in 1272 'to hold divine service in an oratory built within the walls of the castle' , and we may assume from this that Eardisley had then become the chief residence of the family, as it continued to be for the four succeeding centuries.

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"During that long period the house of Baskerville produced a series of knights, whom to mention by name would exceed our limits. They won their spurs not by wealth or by waiting upon the Court, but by active service at home and abroad, and on the grave of each might be inscribed the quaint old epitaph:—

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'Eques Auratus well may he he said

Whose coyne, not warlike courage, such hath made;

To Baskerville, we Miles do afford

As knighted on the field by his flesht sword.'

!Source: The Early Baskerville Family, Paul Remfry 2021, The Castles and Political History of Breconshire

https://www.academia.edu/44721344/The_Early_Baskerville_Family

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Note: The following is clearly the same story as those above, but so different from the other versions, that I can only conclude the author was trying to prove that a certain line existed, and that all the people with the same names were the same person. Well either that or the others all were. He puts together the the same or similar names in multiple locations, which could be true. He does have a lot of sources, but I think there could be different conclusions drawn and his dates vary somewhat, not that a lot of the dates don’t have to be infered from what’s around them anyway. The problem is, that I need to put the various source to do with Northwood together, and they clearly come together somewhere with this and the names and dates here don’t match, which could either be vagness, or maybe there were more than one person represetnted by the similar names. - Rex

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>>> Ralph Baskerville <<< would seem to have died in July 1186 as at Michaelmas 1188 the

sheriff of Herefordshire accounted for £42 15s for the profits of Eardisley for 2¼ years*53.

Similarly Thomas Fitz Odo paid £8 for 2 years in charge of Willersley, formerly held by

>>> Ralph Baskerville <<<, which Thomas was holding by the king’s writ. The sheriff also claimed £4 15s

for the maintenance of Eardisley castle for the past 2¼ years and keeping serjeants there

*54. During the last year of his life,

>>> Ralph <<< had apparently granted a hide at Woodbury of the fee of

Walter Clifford and other lands as well as 100s of land in Bredwardine to his daughter

>>> Matilda <<<. This was witnessed by

>>> Matilda <<< [St Valery, d.1210] the wife of

>>> William Braose <<<

and

>>> Philip <<< her son *55. Also mentioned was the small mill beneath

Bredwardine castle.

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Sometime, obviously before his death in 1186 and after 1176,

>>> Ralph <<<, with the consent

of his son

>>> Ralph <<<, who was therefore obviously his heir, at least to this land, confirmed Drostre

mill and all the fines that pertained to it, together with the leet above the River Llynfi as it was

and had been held by the Baskervilles from the lords of Brecon. This was sealed in the

presence of Bishop Peter Leia of St David’s 1176-98) and was witnessed by William Braose

and many French, English and Welshmen, clerks as well as laity, before the altar of St John in

Brecon priory*56. Both

>>> Ralphs <<< at another time also granted a wood called Ridgemore in

Bredwardine, up to the road which is between Ridgemore and Fildemore, with about 20

perches of stream called Lembegge up to the road in the wood; and 6 acres of land in the old

town above the ford and land in Weirfurlong . This was witnessed by

William Braose and Matilda his wife , as well as

Abbot Ralph of Wigmore *57. It seems apparent from this that both Ralph

Baskervilles held their fee of Bredwardine from the lords of Brecon and that Brycheiniog

therefore once bordered the River Wye in what is now western Herefordshire.

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For some reason the Crown kept hold of

>>> Ralph Baskerville’s <<< English lands and at

Michaelmas 1189 the sheriff accounted for £10 14s 10d from Eardisley and Combe

Baskerville which had belonged to

>>> Ralph Baskerville <<<*58. The next year the

Shropshire lands of

>>> Ralph <<< were still in royal administration*59. Possibly this year, or the next,

on 26 May 1191,

>>> Ralph Baskerville <<<, the son of the

>>> Ralph <<< who died in 1186, was murdered in

Northamptonshire, leaving a widow,

>>> Nest ap Gruffydd <<< and several children. Certainly this is

what

>>> Thomas <<< claimed when he took the alleged murderer to court in 1201 when he was no

longer under his mother’s custody due to his age *60. Some of

>>> Ralph’s <<< lands eventually passed

to

>>> Thomas Baskerville <<< . From about May 1194 the escheater of Shropshire

accounted for a rent of 8d from Piketorn

>>> Thomae <<< in the pipe rolls. This was Pikethorn, the

>>> Thomas <<< appellation being for

>>> Ralph’s <<< son and heir to that land,

>>> Thomas Baskerville <<<. This

>>> Thomas <<< also tried to regain Staunton on Wye from the Picards of Tretower, but eventually

failed *61 . On his death, apparently without heirs, sometime after 1255, Pikethorn reverted to

his cousin,

>>> Walter Baskerville <<< of Eardisley *62.

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*53 PR 34 Henry II, 214.

*54 Warner, G.F., Ellis, H.J. , Facsimilies of Royal and Other Charters in the British Museum [1903], 65.

*55 British Library, Additional 20408.

*56 Brecon P, 1883, 164 and a confirmation by William Braose , Idem, 158.

*57 Brecon P, 1883, 164-5.

*58 PR 1 Richard I, 145.

*59 Roll of Escheat 2 Richard, 4.

*60 Curia Regis Rolls, 1194-1242 [1922-79] 1189-1201, 435; Placitorum in Domo capitulari Westmonasteriens asservatorum Abbreviatio, Ric I - Ed II, [1811], 67.

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*61 PR 6 Richard I, 139, 143.

*62 CIPM II, No.595.

*63 Rotuli Curiae Regis 1194-99, ed. F. Palgrave [2 vols, 1835], 86, 110.

*64 Curia Regis Rolls, 1194-1242 [1922-79] 1189-1201, 76.

*65 Rotuli Curiae Regis 1194-99, ed. F. Palgrave [2 vols, 1835], 426.

*66 Ep Acts I, 334-5; Brecon P, 1882, 306-7. The dating of the charter is confirmed by it being witnessed by both Giraldus Cambrensis and

Gerald Barry his nephew, while both were working in unison in 1207-8.

*67 Brecon P, 1883, 164 and a Braose confirmation, Idem, 158.

*68 Book of Fees 1198-1293 [3 vols., 1921-31], 145.

*69 RLCl II,441b.

!Source: AlliedFamilies https://alliedfamilies.wordpress.com/2010/03/14/contents/

The Baskerville family is a very old Norman family in England. Eardisley in Herefordshire was their earliest home.

>>> Ralph de Baskerville <<< married

>>> Sibyl <<<, heiress of

>>> Adam de Port <<< and held a knights fee in 1165 of

>>> Adam de Port <<<, in Eardisley. His son,

>>> Sir Robert Baskerville <<<, married

>>> Agnes <<<, daughter of

>>> Nesta <<< , daughter of

>>> Rhys ap Gryfudd <<<, Prince of South Wales. Their sons were

>>> Ralph <<<,

>>> Walter <<< died post 1168,

>>> Robert <<<, died post 1173, and

>>> Richard <<<, died 1177. Their

>>> Sir Ralph de Baskerville <<< married a daughter of

>>> Drogo, Lord Clifford <<< in 1154. He held his lands from the reign of Henry I through inheritance and upon his murder in 1194 in Northamptonshire, his son

>>> Roger <<< succeeded to Eardisley, in Herfordshire and his son

>>> Thomas <<< succeeded him at Pickthorn, the Shropshire estate. In 1200,

>>> Thomas <<<, not yet of age, d Roger Fitz William … for that wickedly, and in the King peace, and in felony, and in murder, he slew

>>> Ralph de Baskerville <<< his father in his house, and this the said

>>> Thomas <<< saw, as he said, being a boy under age, and this he offers to prove against Roger with his body. Another son,

>>> Walter <<< married first

>>> Emma de St. Leger <<<, who died in 1196, then the widow,

>>> Iseult Pantulf <<<.

>>> Emma <<< was the mother of

>>> Walter Baskerville <<< who was born about 1194 and died around 1243. Another son of

>>> Ralph <<< and the

>>> lady Clifford <<< was

>>> Ralph <<< who died in 1186. In Warwickshire is Stretton-Baskerville, which obtained its name from

>>> William d Baskerville <<< who held three fees of Robert, Earl Ferrers honor of Tutbury. In 1208, the last Baskerville to hold Stretton was

>>> Walter <<<, grandson of

>>> William <<<.

Note: The death estimats above are clearly useless, but might due for birth extimates.

!Notes: In above sources:

1. Nesta daughter of Rhys ap Gryfudd, is given as the wife of the second Ralph, and the mother-in-law of Robert son of the first Ralph and brother of the second Ralph.

2. Thomas, who avenged his father, is given as the son of both Ralphs.

3. Nesta Ferch Gruffyd is reputedly the daughter of King Gruffyd ap Llywelyn of Wales . She is given birth dates ranging from at least 1056 to 1137 in various pubications. Only the fist is possible, given her fathers dates.

4. Robert’s sons were Ralph, Walter died post 1168, Robert, died post 1173, and Richard, died 1177. This provides a second Ralph, although a grandson of the first one. However, the dats ar imposible and I think the Ralphs are being mixed up.