John Bache

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Personal and Family Information

John was born about 1395, the son of unknown parents. The place is not known.

He died on 8 OCT 1409. The place is not known.

His wife was Joan de Seint Loe. They were married, but the date and place have not been found. They had no known children.

Events

EventDateDetailsSourceMultimediaNotes
BirthABT 1395
Death8 OCT 1409

Notes

Note 1

!Source: The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant,

Extinct, or Dormant G. E. Cokayne; new edition rev. Vicary Gibbs & H. A. Doubleday

Vol. V [Eardley of Spalding to Goojerat]. London: The St Catherine Press, 1926 [cancelling 1921 issue]

p. 457 – FitzPayn.

https://archive.org/details/CokayneG.E.TheCompletePeerageSecondEditionVolume5EAGO/page/n239/mode/2up

> page 457 matches:

Function Record Location

Livery of St Loe / Paveley inheritance [3 Dec 1375] Fine Roll 49 Edw III m. 12 + Partition of Westbury & Hundenhall [Wilts.] and hundred of Westbury between Joan de Seint Loe [Chidiok]

Ch. Privy Seals I file 444 no. 30802 and her sister Ela de Bradestone.

Death of Sir John Chidiok II [30 Jun / 1 Jul 1390] Ch. Inq. p.m. Ric II file 64 no. 12 Died holding Westbury moiety and other manors in right of his wife. Heir – John Chidiok [age 12–15].

Widow’s livery of lands [15 Oct 1390] Close Roll 14 Ric II m. 32 Joan de Seint Loe [Chidiok] received her inheritance from the Crown.

2nd marriage of Joan de Seint Loe / Chidiok Inq. p.m. Hen IV file 76 no. 15 + Exch. Inq. I file 95 no. 4 Married John Bache [c. 1395–8 Oct 1409]; held Westbury ¼ fee and Little Crichel in dower;

will proved 25 Nov 1409 at Lambeth.

Inheritance of Sir John Chidiok III [21 Nov 1409] Fine Roll 11 Hen IV m. 27 Homage respited; livery of lands in Wilts & Glouc.

> Clean Reconstruction

Sir John Chidiok II [c. 1348 – 30 Jun 1390] married Joan de Seint Loe, elder daughter and co-heiress of Sir John de Seint Loe [by Alice de Paveley].

Through her the Chidioks acquired a share of the Seint Loe–Paveley inheritances in Wiltshire and Gloucestershire [Westbury, Hilperton, Clifton].

He died in 1390; his widow held her purparty and later married John Bache of Little Crichel, who died 1409.

Their son Sir John Chidiok III [b. c. 1375] succeeded aged about 15 and was confirmed in possession of his lands in 1409.

> Relevance to the Verified FitzPaen Descent

Page 457 demonstrates the FitzPaen bloodline thriving in the Chidiok descendants for two more generations.

By the 1390s the family had blended the old FitzPaen manors of Somerset and Dorset with the Seint Loe–Paveley estates of Wiltshire and Gloucestershire, forming a broad West-Country power base.

This continuity represents the final active line before the Barony of FitzPaen slipped into abeyance around 1400.